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Tue Nov 18 23:43:20 CET 2008


In the presence of DNSSEC, no form of a zone file or query response that co=
ntains a U-label may be signed or the signature validated.

[a U-label indicates a name form containing non-ASCII characters not proper=
ly encoded with IDN].

I would expect that DNSSEC would operate at the layer below IDN, and could =
therefore sign and validate any data that DNS could validly return. There m=
ay be subtle reason for this restriction that I don't understand, but the j=
ustification in the document didn't seem right.

                --Charlie

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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DSection1><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'fo=
nt-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I am reviewing this document as part of t=
he security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being=
 processed by the IESG.&nbsp; These comments were written primarily for the=
 benefit of the security area directors.&nbsp; Document editors and WG chai=
rs should treat these comments just like any other last call comments. Feel=
 free to forward to any appropriate forum.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This I-D is part of a s=
et of I-D&#8217;s that update the RFCs on Internationalized Domain Names. T=
his document is intended to become an Informational RFC and provides a rati=
onale for the proposed changes (as well as for the initial design of IDNA).=
 Its Security Considerations section defers to draft-ietf-idnabis-defs-11.t=
xt, which has a good Security Considerations section.<o:p></o:p></p><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>In my opinion, the =
change to IDNs that warrants the most concern is the fact that for some IDN=
s the new set of RFCs will specify a different representation than the old =
one did. This could in theory cause security problems, though that seems in=
tuitively unlikely (to me, at least).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I would question one statement in t=
he document.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal>From Section 8.2:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>In the presence of DNSSEC, no form of a =
zone file or query response that contains a U-label may be signed or the si=
gnature validated.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal>[a U-label indicates a name form containing non-ASCII =
characters not properly encoded with IDN].<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I would expect that DNSSEC wou=
ld operate at the layer below IDN, and could therefore sign and validate an=
y data that DNS could validly return. There may be subtle reason for this r=
estriction that I don&#8217;t understand, but the justification in the docu=
ment didn&#8217;t seem right.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; --Charlie<o:p></o:p></p></d=
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