Vint Cerf vint at
Fri May 23 16:50:18 CEST 2008


I don't think that John's scenario conflicts with discussion of  
issues - I read his note to mean that WG members maintain list of  
issues outstanding from their perspective and we discuss them as the  
documents evolve. What did I miss?


On May 23, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Mark Davis wrote:

> I guess I'm used to a mode of operation where people in the wg  
> actually discuss the issues, and there is consensus to make changes  
> or not.
> Mark
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Patrik Fältström  
> <patrik at> wrote:
> On 23 maj 2008, at 03.32, Mark Davis wrote:
> I had a number of comments posted some time ago on each of the  
> documents; to
> the best of my knowledge you didn't respond on them. It sounds like  
> you want
> me (and others like me) to go back and review each new version to  
> see which
> have been addressed and which haven't, and revise my comments  
> accordingly.
> It would be more effective to respond on the list with commentary  
> as to why
> you did or didn't incorporate responses to the comments made.
> That is not easy as not only you make comments on the document.  
> What is changed in the document is what I as an editor see as  
> consensus on this mailing list (and what reaches me privately in  
> email, on the phone etc). Given the conclusions I draw from _all_  
> comments, I update the document accordingly.
> To then go back to each one of the people that have come with  
> comments and write for each one of them exactly what part of their  
> comments I think this or that on is something that take more time  
> than what I think we have in the wg.
> It is much better if reviewers do exactly what you propose. That  
> you have a list of issues, you for each new version of the document  
> do a diff, and check not only what comments are taken care of (that  
> you then remove from your list), what issues are still valid, and  
> what new issues have arised. And then post to the list again.
> That makes my life much simpler, and makes the work in the wg  
> easier and more smooth.
>    Patrik
> -- 
> Mark
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