Wwhich RFCs the new work would obsolete,
vs update or leave alone
Simon Josefsson
simon at josefsson.org
Tue Mar 18 22:23:13 CET 2008
John C Klensin <klensin at jck.com> writes:
> I think that what this means is that
>
> (i) The new charter should explicitly indicate that this
> (IDNAbis) work does not obsolete nameprep.
I agree.
> It might indicate that it would leave it a partial orphan.
There is no IETF status to express that, I think. This status will be
implied if we specify a new IDNA approach and make new protocols use it.
Eventually Nameprep can be re-classified as HISTORIC once we finish
(ii):
> (ii) Once the work is finished, we need to go back and
> review each of the documents that Simon has identified
> (even the informative-reference ones) and prepare one or
> more new documents that update _them_ with better
> references and/or references to IDNAbis and/or clarify
> the relationship of Nameprep to other things. If that
> document were to succeed in effectively eliminating all
> pointers to Nameprep, it could then obsolete it.
We could start to do this now, if we cared to. If the documents indeed
should reference IDNA and use IDN-aware domain name slots instead of
referncing Nameprep, that is a mistake regardless of IDNABIS.
> But I don't see any of that as being in the critical path for
> the proposed WG.
Right. Still, this suggests the WG needs to clearly specify which
documents are to be updated/obsoleted.
I think we have established that StringPrep and NamePrep should not be
updated, right?
I don't see any need to revise Punycode?
Thus, the scope of the IDNABIS WG should be to create a replacement for
RFC 3490 (IDNA). That should be in the WG charter in my opinion.
>> It would be nice to give guidance for what protocols that rely
>> on Nameprep should be doing when IDNA200x is finished.
>
> As indirectly suggested above, I think we are going to have to
> go through them on a case by case basis and see if they should
> really be referencing Nameprep, IDN-aware slots and IDNA (and
> eventually IDNAbis), or Stringprep directly. I think we may
> discover all three cases.
Agreed.
/Simon
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