IDNs and Language definitions and labeling (was: RE: New version, draft-faltstrom-idnabis-tables-02.txt, available)

JFC Morfin jefsey at
Fri Jun 22 15:10:06 CEST 2007

At 12:12 22/06/2007, Debbie Garside wrote:
>However, I can see that my ideas for allocating Unicode code points 
>to the writing systems within ISO 639-6 does not meet the objectives 
>of this particular forum;

your ideas are a need. But how, when, and where for the IETF is another story.

May I suggest you also to read the ICANN ICP-3 document and its 
annexes (in particular by John Klensin).  This is the nearest thing 
we have from a market demand analysis the IETF WG-IDNA Charter 
requested as a pre-requisite. At the time choices were made because 
some concepts seemed to oppose, that experience, analysis, and debate 
could show otherwise (I think in particular to the UC class of John, 
that several projects I know of are contemplating or actually 
deploying, in a way that is actually transparent to the current 
operations) [I am bound by professionnal non-disclosure but they are 
easy to roughly imagine/indentify]

What you say is not far from ccTLD tables. This work of yours is 
encouraged by the WSIS action pan (C8.23.o). But remember there is a 
coopetition between the normative (you), algorithmic (patrick), and 
linguistic (michael) points of view, that IMHO John can properly help 
to organise and that ISO 3166-1:2006 provided an applied example of 
how to use/extend it in a multilingual environment.

In this, the rigidity of your ISO NWIP can be a temporay fix to 
Michael's and Patrick's objections in replacing an algorithm by a 
(large well designed) table, but will be a problem if it is not 
quickly encapsulated into a more general (Patrick) and adaptative 
(Michael) clearly defined (you) system.


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