[R-C] [AVTCORE] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-perkins-avtcore-rtp-circuit-breakers-00.txt
Mark Handley
M.Handley at cs.ucl.ac.uk
Wed Apr 4 03:55:57 CEST 2012
Colin, Varun,
Can you clarify how the circuit breaker mechanism would work with RFC
4585 extended feedback. To make things concrete, I'm thinking about
the following scenario:
- Sender is sending 2Mb/s video into a 4Mb/s DSL line. RTT is 100ms.
- Receiver is allowed to send up to 2.5% of this as RTCP feedback in
ACK mode, so that's 6.5 packets per RTT if I got the maths right.
- A TCP flow slowstarts, doubles the window for the last time and
collides with the RTP flow in the wonderful way slowstart sometimes
does. If you're unlucky, you'll get 33% packet loss for one full RTT
before TCP backs off.
- The RTCP receiver sends 6 successive RTCP reports over one RTT
indicating 33% loss. If doesn't really matter if ACKs or NACKs are
sent in this scenario.
The calculated TCP rate would be ~18Kb/s for those parameters, so the
circuit breaker would kick in if I understood the draft correctly
because that's more than two reporting intervals with excessively high
loss.
This is the main reason for loss event rate in the TFRC specification
- you avoid responding to such transients too strongly.
Cheers,
Mark
On 5 March 2012 23:32, Colin Perkins <csp at csperkins.org> wrote:
> Here's our initial attempt at a "circuit breakers" draft for RTCWeb. Comments welcome - this is very much a straw-man for discussion, rather than a final solution.
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> Colin
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> Begin forwarded message:
>> From: internet-drafts at ietf.org
>> Subject: I-D Action: draft-perkins-avtcore-rtp-circuit-breakers-00.txt
>> Date: 5 March 2012 20:17:59 GMT
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>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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>> Title : RTP Congestion Control: Circuit Breakers for Unicast Sessions
>> Author(s) : Colin Perkins
>> Varun Singh
>> Filename : draft-perkins-avtcore-rtp-circuit-breakers-00.txt
>> Pages : 14
>> Date : 2012-03-05
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>> The Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) is widely used for telephony,
>> video conferencing, and telepresence applications. These
>> applications are often used over best-effort UDP/IP networks. If
>> congestion control is not implemented then network congestion will
>> deteriorate the user's multimedia experience. This document does not
>> propose a congestion control algorithm. Instead, it specifies a
>> minimal set of "circuit-breakers". Circuit-breakers are conditions
>> under which an RTP flow should cease to transmit media to protect the
>> network from excessive congestion. It is expected that all RTP
>> applications running on best-effort networks will be able to run
>> without triggering these circuit breakers in normal operation.
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>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-perkins-avtcore-rtp-circuit-breakers-00.txt
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