Last Call: 'IETF Problem Resolution Process' to InformationalRFC

Spencer Dawkins spencer at mcsr-labs.org
Fri Jan 16 04:39:20 CET 2004


Honestly.

What part of the sentence "It is not a part of this group's charter to
propose solutions to the
problems" seems unclear? It appears fairly prominently in
http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/problem-charter.html...

Spencer

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "todd glassey" <todd.glassey at worldnet.att.net>
To: <iesg at ietf.org>
Cc: <problem-statement at alvestrand.no>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: Last Call: 'IETF Problem Resolution Process' to
InformationalRFC


> I have a real issue with this language as proposed
> herein. The Problem Statement working group was not
> interested in "fixing or solving the IETF's problems"
> or in actually identifying  any problems beyond the
> small list that the WG Chairs and the In-crowd of the
> group wanted to focus on exclusively. The net of this
> is that so many views and concerns  were omitted that
> the resulting documents can hardly be called a
> consensus except between the specific advocates of
> those documents.
>
> This is a demonstration of the critical failing of the
> IETF to adequately represent anyone but the "insiders"
> in any situation and clearly IMHO demonstrates the lack
> of Fair and Open processes.
>
> Todd Glassey
>



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