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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">If I were the one requesting this, I would do both:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">    
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Ask this group to submit a letter similar to what we have (honest, yet not antagonistic) as soon as is convenient.  That may, somehow,
 be faster than #2.  At the very least it should help get people at the RA used to the idea for #2.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Concurrently, I think Mats could prepare a new application with the additional evidence and supporting documentation.  That might take
 longer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">-Shawn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Mats Blakstad [mailto:mats.gbproject@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>; ietflang IETF Languages Discussion <ietf-languages@iana.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Appeal to ISO 639 RA in support of Elfdalian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Okay, what if we do it like this: we send a new iso639 application this year, and then IETF add this letter to the application or as comment in the review period. Then if the RA is still no ready to assign a language code, then IETF should
 be ready to assign his own language subtag. It must be an honest and open letter like the one we have, it might not be comfortable to read for the RA, but it is honest and the truth. It can not be a letter that simply supports the application for an iso639
 code without any consequences; I need to get a clear answer about what is going to happen if also the next iso639 application is rejected. That solution cannot be "use a privat subtag" or "create a variant subtag for Swedish".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2016-04-25 7:09 GMT+02:00 Shawn Steele <<a href="mailto:Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com" target="_blank">Shawn.Steele@microsoft.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-US">So in other words no, it will not be possible to <i>
include</i> this private use tag in BCP47. It will not be listed within IANA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span lang="EN-US">I know it will be valid, but that is something else than included.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US">> I think you're suggesting a really bad solution for Elfdalian.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If by “include” you mean saying qaa === Elfdalian in the language subtag registry, then no.  That would
 defeat the purpose of the private use tag.  By my definition of include, it’s already permitted.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">It isn’t suggested as a permanent solution, but rather a temporary method to allow people interested
 in the language to tag content appropriately.  </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I have used this technique in the past for projects I was interested in.  (Bing uses tlh-Qaak, however
 now needs to be updated to tlh-Piqd if you want a real-world example.  Previously there was an i- code.)</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Given the direction of the conversation, it seems unlikely to me that this language tag issue will be
 resolved within the next month or two.  So I’m suggesting that as a possible path to unblock your immediate needs, not as a long-term solution.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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