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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The comments about tone aren’t as much about delicacy as about politeness.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Consider the RA’s comments that Mark wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"The request to create the code [ovd] Övdalian is rejected at this point. However, the Registration Authority is sympathetic to the request and notes that the outcome of a future request might be different following further clarification
of decision-making principles in the standard that are anticipated to come out of the current work item to produce a revision of the text of the standard."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Are you saying that the RA is wrong about being sympathetic to the request? Of course not. What those who are proponents are saying is that, whatever changes to decision-making
principles may be considered, the correct decision in the case of Elfdalian is that it be considered a separate language. And so, you would like the decision to be reconsidered and made on the weight of the linguistic evidence, and that because of the current
user needs you would like that decision to be taken soon rather than waiting until 2017.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I suggest Michael and whoever else step into the shoes of the recipient and consider what kind of wording you would find most convincing. And, no, I’m not going to provide
text for that because, even though I’m sympathetic to the request, I’m not among those in need of urgent action by the RA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Additionally, I suggest that you submit the input via the RA’s standard process so that it is publicly visible, and also send email drawing their attention to the submission
and requesting expedited action.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Ietf-languages [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Doug Ewell<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 24, 2016 9:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark Davis </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif">☕️</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <mark@macchiato.com>; Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ietflang IETF Languages Discussion <ietf-languages@iana.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Appeal to ISO 639 RA in support of Elfdalian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Dear ISO 639-3/RA, the undersigned believe that Elfdalian is a language and not a dialect, and as such should be issued an ISO 639-3 code element, for the following reasons...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Is this what we are trying to say? It doesn’t mention that the RA previously denied the request, and therefore avoids telling the RA that they made an incorrect decision. Do we
need to be even more delicate than this, and not even ask them to issue a code element, but only suggest abstractly that they might possibly wish to consider additional evidence?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">It is sometimes difficult to ask someone in writing to overturn their decision without basically telling them their decision was in error. In speech, tone of voice and pauses and
eyebrows make this sort of advanced finesse more practical.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I don’t have any problem with saying “the undersigned” or equivalent instead of claiming the entire group, some of whom may disagree.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">--<br>
Doug Ewell | <a href="http://ewellic.org">http://ewellic.org</a> | Thornton, CO </span>
<span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif;color:black">🇺🇸</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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