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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Kent:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Two comments:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Re the first of your reply, I meant “relative to” in exactly the same way it would pertain to any other language tag or subtag: every subtag exists to create
a contrastive distinction from something else.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Re the second, “controlled language” is cover term that encompasses exactly what this request is all about: the content was not created in the way people naturally
speak or write, but was controlled in some respects for some communicative purpose — e.g., being “plain” or “simple” to facilitate comprehension by L2 audiences, or persons with cognitive disabilities, or whatever.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Ietf-languages [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kent Karlsson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ietf-languages@alvestrand.no<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Another attempt at plain language<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Den 2015-09-15 02:18, skrev "Peter Constable" <<a href="petercon@microsoft.com">petercon@microsoft.com</a>>:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I have no problem with wanting to use a language tag to declare “this is a simplified variant” (relative to some other document that doesn’t have that).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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There is no need to refer to another "non-simple" variant *document*. The "simplified language" document (radio program, ...) may be quite separate from any other document (or radio program or whatever).
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">But before proceeding with anything along this line, I think I’d want to see some input from linguistic experts that are dealing with this area
generally — and by that, I don’t someone working just on accessibility. Content may be authored using controlled language in a variety of contexts for a variety of reasons.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Going for "controlled language" I think is a non-starter for a general variant (as requested). Very few languages will have any *controlled* variant defined. Any variant tag
for this will have to much more informal. (I still think the A1-C2 levels in CEF may be of interest.)<br>
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/Kent K</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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