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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=611341814-10062010>As the ISO 639/RA-JAC (the JAC) has been
established "to guide the application of the coding rules as laid down in (the
different parts of) ISO 639, and as ISO 639 "Scope and field of application", as
stated by ISO 639 (1988) is:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=611341814-10062010>"This International Standard provides a code for the
representation of names of languages. The symbols were devised primarily
for use in terminology, lexicography and linguistics, but they may be used for
any application requiring the expression of (names of) languages in coded
form ...", </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=611341814-10062010>I cannot, as a JAC member, agree with the
affirmation that there is no bearing in JAC possible action only because there
would be enough evidence that Montenegrin and Serbian are linguistically
identical (And I also do not share this hypothesis as
evident).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=611341814-10062010></SPAN><SPAN
class=611341814-10062010></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2>B<SPAN class=611341814-10062010>ut, in the case that we should agree that
Montenegrin and Serbian are linguistically equivalent, then we would also be
obliged to recognize that Bosniac and Serbian are linguistically equivalent. And
so, we would be obliged to conclude that Bosniac and Montenegrin MUST be treated
on an equal footing. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=611341814-10062010></SPAN><SPAN
class=611341814-10062010></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2>C<SPAN
class=611341814-10062010>ordialement.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=611341814-10062010></SPAN><SPAN
class=611341814-10062010></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2>G<SPAN class=611341814-10062010>érard
LANG</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>De :</B> ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no
[mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no] <B>De la part de</B> Peter
Constable<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> jeudi 10 juin 2010 16:14<BR><B>À :</B>
ietflang IETF Languages Discussion
(ietf-languages@iana.org)<BR><B>Objet :</B>
Montenegrin<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US>Since Montenegro decided to refer to their
official language using a distinct name from that used by their neighbors, the
question has come up on a few occasions as to whether “Montenegrin” should be
coded in ISO 639 distinct from Serbian. This raises various questions in my
mind regarding implications of such a change, and I’m curious to know if
people on this list have comments. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US>In raising this, I’d ask people not to
rat-hole on how different Serbian and Montenegrin are linguistically: there’s
enough evidence that they can appropriate be considered a single language in
terms of linguistic criteria, and so that would have no bearing whatsoever in
possible JAC action.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US>Some questions that come to my
mind:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">-<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US>Given the
established practice of coding “Bosnian”, “Croatian” and “Serbian” distinctly,
how problematic would it be for users and implementers if “Montenegrin” was
handled differently, simply being listed as one of the alternative names for
sr / srp?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">-<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US>Will
users really distinguish “Montenegrin” language from “Serbian” language when
reading books, newspapers, etc.; when listening to radio, television, music,
etc.; when buying dictionaries, hiring translators, etc?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">-<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US>Will
librarians and other cataloguers really distinguish content in “Montenegrin”
vs. “Serbian”?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">-<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US>How will
content developers that deal with localization be impacted? E.g., as
developers of software or large websites, video media publishers dealing with
alternate-language audio tracks or closed-caption
content?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
lang=EN-US><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">-<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN dir=ltr></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US>In what
ways would “sr-ME” versus “sr-RS” be less than fully adequate for users’
needs?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
lang=EN-US>Peter<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>