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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>[scr] and [scc] have been deprecated (I think that is the proper
term) now in Part 2. I thought I had removed them from the published tables.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There is now no distinct Part 2B identifier in these two cases.
There is now only the one identifier for each.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thank you for bringing it to light.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Joan Spanne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>SIL International<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>ISO 639-3 Registration Authority<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>iso639-3@sil.org<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no
[mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Davis ?<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 17, 2010 3:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ietf-languages@iana.org; ISO639-3@sil.org; iso639-2@loc.gov<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Mismatch between ISO 639-2 and ISO 639-3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>There is a discrepancy between ISO 639-2 and ISO 639-3 for
certain three-letter codes. In particular, the bibliographic codes for Croatian
and Serbian are hrv and srp respectively in ISO 639-2,
whereas ISO 639-3 has them as scr and scc respectively. (There is also a
mismatch in the '3-letter code' for "sh", but that is less
important.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>My question is: which one should we believe: ISO 639-2 or
ISO 639-3?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b>Background</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><br>
For ISO 639-3, we have the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><br>
<a href="http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/iso-639-3_20100202.tab">http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/iso-639-3_20100202.tab</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b>Id</b><o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b>Part2B</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b>Part2T</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b>Part1</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b>Scope</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b>Language_Type</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b>Ref_Name</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b>Comment</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>hrv<o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>scr<o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>hrv<o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>hr<o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>I<o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>L<o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>Croatian<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
</tr>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>srp<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>scc<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>srp<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>sr<o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>I<o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>L<o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>Serbian<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>hbs<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>sh<o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>M<o:p></o:p></p>
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<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>L<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>Serbo-Croatian<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal>Code element for 639-1 has been deprecated<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On the other hand, we find the following in<br>
<a href="http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php">http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php</a><br>
which matches <a
href="http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/ISO-639-2_utf-8.txt">http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/ISO-639-2_utf-8.txt</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style='border-collapse:collapse;line-height:inherit'>
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<td valign=top style='background:#FFFFEE;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>O
639-2 Code</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<td valign=top style='background:#FFFFEE;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>ISO
639-1 Code</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<td valign=top style='background:#FFFFEE;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>English
name of Language</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='background:#FFFFEE;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>French
name of Language</span><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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</tr>
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<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
</tr>
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<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>hrv<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>hr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>Croatian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>croate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>srp<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>sr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>Serbian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>serbe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</tr>
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<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
<td valign=top style='padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'></td>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Differences between B and T are indicated in the first
column, where they exist, such as:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
style='border-collapse:collapse;line-height:inherit'>
<tr>
<td valign=top style='padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>wel (B)<br>
cym (T)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<td valign=top style='padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>cy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>Welsh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<td valign=top style='padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>gallois<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>If there are no such differences, then B and T are the same.
So this says that the B forms are hrv and srp respectively, whereas ISO 639-3
has them as scr and scc respectively.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>For ISO 639-2, "sh" is in a different file (there
doesn't seem to be a machine-readable form).<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_changes.php">http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_changes.php</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0
style='border-collapse:collapse;line-height:inherit'>
<tr>
<td valign=top style='padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>[-sh]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>(none)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>Serbo-Croatian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>serbo-croate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>2000-02-18<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<td valign=top style='padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>Dep<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<td valign=top style='padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>This code was deprecated...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>In this case, the 3-letter code is indicated as none, while
ISO 639-3 has it as hbs. This is not as problematic, because 'sh' has a funny
status in 639-3.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Mark<o:p></o:p></p>
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