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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It is *<b>not</b>* possible to change the ID of an already-encoded
category, so requesting such a change is definitely not worth pursuing.
Changing the name without changing the semantic is possible, however, and
changes to a semantic are possible with restrictions so as to avoid causing
existing usage to become invalid.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no
[mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no] <b>On Behalf Of </b>CE Whitehead<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 23, 2009 2:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ietf-languages@iana.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Suggestion: registration of variant subtags for Aluku,
Ndyuka, and Pamaka (Suriname/French Guiana English-based Creoles)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Hi.
<br>
<br>
M. Vaillant:<br>
<br>
As far as I understand, it is possible to change the ISO639-3 codes and
language names (Joan Span's posting has just reminded me of this), but you
are right; I do not think a change to the code itself would be worth
pursuing; if you wished to add additional names however, that would be fine:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/submit_changes.asp#Types">http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/submit_changes.asp#Types</a><br>
"<br>
The types of changes that are possible are to:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>modify
the reference information for an existing code element (reference name and
additional names, language type. language scope or relationship to a <a
href="http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/macrolanguages.asp">macrolanguage</a>
grouping). <o:p></o:p></span></li>
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mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>retire
a code element from use, including merging its scope of denotation into
that of another code. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>split
an existing code element into two or more separate language code elements.
<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>create
a new code element for a previously unidentified language. <o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>"<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/submit_changes.asp#Submitting">http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/submit_changes.asp#Submitting</a><br>
<br>
And we can still approve the variant subtags (once RFC 4646 is
published? Is that the consensus?)<br>
<br>
Thanks. <br>
<br>
--C. E. Whitehead<br>
<a href="mailto:cewcathar@hotmail.com">cewcathar@hotmail.com</a> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> From: pascal.vaillant@guyane.univ-ag.fr<br>
> To: cewcathar@hotmail.com; ietf-languages@iana.org<br>
> Subject: Re: Suggestion: registration of variant subtags for Aluku,
Ndyuka, and Pamaka (Suriname/French Guiana English-based Creoles)<br>
> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:06:48 -0300<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Le Friday 23 January 2009, vous avez écrit :<br>
> > Hi, the information at Wikipedia & Ethnologue suggests that M.
Vaillant is<br>
> > correct; these seem to be three dialects.<br>
> ><br>
> > But I am not familiar with these either.<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
> Actually my request reflects the view of a group of specialists<br>
> in my research lab, CELIA, which is specialized in the field<br>
> (http://celia.cnrs.fr). Two of them wrote one of the bibliographical<br>
> references cited. The Ethnologue catalogue edited by the SIL <br>
> (http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=djk),<br>
> which is the ground on which the ISO 639-3 standard is based,<br>
> also considers the three varieties as dialects of a same language,<br>
> not as languages of a same macro-language. The disagreement between<br>
> specialists would rather lie in one detail, namely the mnemonic<br>
> chosen to name that language : 'djk' (language tag chosen by<br>
> the SIL) is a reminder of Djuka, which is but one variety of<br>
> the language (though the most numerous). But this is not a matter<br>
> to be discussed here, I suppose.<br>
> <br>
> Regards,<br>
> <br>
> Pascal Vaillant<br>
> <br>
> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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