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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=151354109-05112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I would advise to wait a little while as the
reference name of 'ro' is presently under discussion by the ISO 639
JAC.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=151354109-05112008></SPAN><SPAN
class=151354109-05112008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>best
regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=151354109-05112008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Debbie</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no
[mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Mark
Davis<BR><B>Sent:</B> 03 November 2008 22:08<BR><B>To:</B> Lang
Gérard<BR><B>Cc:</B> ietf-languages@iana.org; John Cowan; Doug
Ewell<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: ISO 639 JAC decision re mo/mol<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Deprecation of "mo" is a welcome step; whenever BCP47 has two separate
codes for entities that are really dialects, regional variants, or orthographic
variants of a single language, it just causes problems for any software that has
to deal with them. Thus one ends up having to have a special hack to treat "mo"
as if it were "ro-Cyrl-MD". Introducing a formal deprecation in ISO and then the
IANA registry alerts people and software as to the underlying relationship, and
allows simpler canonicalization to a unique form for comparison. People can
still <SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">call</SPAN> "ro-Cyrl-MD" by the term
"Moldovan".</DIV>
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<DIV>===</DIV>
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<DIV>There are, however, two changes that need to be made to the IANA registry
for this:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>A. 'mo': </DIV>
<DIV>- deprecate and add preferred code "ro-Cyrl".</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>B. 'ro': </DIV>
<DIV>- remove the suppress-script of Latn</DIV>
<DIV>- add a comment that Romanian as used in Moldavia ("ro-MD") is typically
called "Moldovan" or "Moldavian" and written in Cyrillic. It is thus generally
equivalent in function to "ro-Cyrl-MD".</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=all>Mark</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Lang Gérard <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:gerard.lang@insee.fr"
target=_blank>gerard.lang@insee.fr</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote
style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Maybe,
but this does not explain why "mo" and "mol" have been created and used during
this time. In particular, if "mol" has been created, there must be some
terminological or bibliographical entries (notably at the LC ?) having used
this code element ? Because "mol" was created in 1998, after the 1994
Constitution of Moldova.<BR>And if the Moldovan language academy recognization
is new, is it between 2008-06-26 (when ISO 639 RA/JAC modified "mo" and
"mol" by adding a new language name variant) and now
?<BR>Cordialement<BR><FONT color=#888888>Gérard LANG<BR>De : John Cowan
[mailto:<A href="mailto:cowan@ccil.org"
target=_blank>cowan@ccil.org</A>]<BR>Envoyé : lundi 3 novembre 2008 16:30<BR>À
: Lang Gérard<BR>Cc : Doug Ewell; <A href="mailto:ietf-languages@iana.org"
target=_blank>ietf-languages@iana.org</A>; <A
href="mailto:havard@hjulstad.com"
target=_blank>havard@hjulstad.com</A><BR></FONT>
<DIV>Objet : Re: ISO 639 JAC decision re mo/mol<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Lang Gérard scripsit:<BR><BR>> How is it possible that this language
name, that passed all criteria<BR>> to be recognized inside ISO 639[-1] and
ISO 639-2 during 20 or 10<BR>> years, has now to be deprecated ?<BR><BR>In
a word, because political realities have finally caught up to linguistic ones:
the constitution may say "Moldovan language", but the Moldovan language
academy recognizes the facts on the ground, which are that Moldovan is
Romanian.<BR><BR>--<BR>But that, he realized, was a foolish
John Cowan<BR>thought; as no one knew better than
he <A href="mailto:cowan@ccil.org"
target=_blank>cowan@ccil.org</A><BR>that the Wall had no other side.
<A
href="http://www.ccil.org/~cowan"
target=_blank>http://www.ccil.org/~cowan</A><BR>
--Arthur C. Clarke, "The Wall of
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