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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>However, zh-pinyin could be misinterpreted and misused to
indicate Cantonese pinyin as was previously mentioned. zh-wadegile is significantly
less ambiguous.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Karen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mark.edward.davis@gmail.com [mailto:mark.edward.davis@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Mark Davis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 25, 2008 4:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Broome, Karen<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ietf-languages@iana.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: wadegile and pinyin LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORMs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I believe the answer was
stated. We're applying for a tag for Chinese Hanyu Pinyin and Wade-Giles
romanizations. That cannot be done with prefixes of cmn or zh-cmn according to
RFC 4646, which is the current specification in force for the IANA language
subtag registry. If and when RFC4646bis passes, we would then register cmn or
zh-cmn also as a prefix, but given the rate of progress so far, that is in the
indefinite future, perhaps never. Those would be specifically Mandarin
romanizations as opposed to Chinese romanizations.<br>
<br>
In any event, it is certainly well-defined, meaningful, and legitimate to
register "pinyin" and "wadegile" with the prefix
"zh-Latn", as meaning "Chinese momanizations"; they
certainly exist and are in widespread usage.<br>
<br clear=all>
Mark<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Broome, Karen <<a
href="mailto:Karen_Broome@spe.sony.com">Karen_Broome@spe.sony.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I thought the use of the
generic "zh" tag instead of "cmn" to indicate variants that
only apply to Mandarin was a substantive objection. I also think that you
deserve some sort of resolution of this issue. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Karen Broome</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no" target="_blank">ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no" target="_blank">ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Davis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 25, 2008 3:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ietf-languages@iana.org" target="_blank">ietf-languages@iana.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> wadegile and pinyin LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORMs</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I have been waiting on two Language Subtag Registration Forms since Aug 2. I
don't think there are an substantive objections, and we have the legitimate
need to distinguish between the Hanyu Pinyin and the Wade-Giles romanizations
of Chinese.<br>
<br>
The message subjects are:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM (R2): wadegile<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM (R2): pinyin<o:p></o:p></li>
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<p>Mark<br>
<br>
PS. According to BCP 47 procedures:<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre> When the two-week period has passed, the Language Subtag Reviewer<br>
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<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> either forwards the record to be inserted or modified to<br>
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<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="mailto:iana@iana.org"
target="_blank">iana@iana.org</a> according to the procedure described in Section 3.3, or<br>
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<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> rejects the request because of significant objections raised on the<br>
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<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><br>
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<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> list or due to problems with constraints in this document (which MUST<br>
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<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> be explicitly cited). The Language Subtag Reviewer MAY also extend<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> the review period in two-week increments to permit further<br>
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<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> discussion. The Language Subtag Reviewer MUST indicate on the list<br>
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<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><br>
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<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> whether the registration has been accepted, rejected, or extended<br>
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<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> following each two-week period.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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