<div dir="ltr">Sorry, misused the term 'valid'. Should have written:<br><br>... as prefixes of fubar so that it would have some non-deprecated prefixes.<br><br clear="all">Mark<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Mark Davis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark.davis@icu-project.org">mark.davis@icu-project.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">Here would be a (made up) example.<br><br>In 2005, the following gets added<br><br><pre>%%<br>Type: variant<br>Subtag: fubar<br>Description: Fubar<br>Added: 2006-09-18<br>Prefix: sr-CS<br>Comments: Fubar dialect of Serbian used only in CS<br>
</pre>Now, later on in 2005, CS gets deprecated as below.<br><br><pre>%%<br>Type: region<br>Subtag: CS<br>Description: Serbia and Montenegro<br>Added: 2005-10-16<br>Deprecated: 2006-10-05<br>Comments: see RS for Serbia or ME for Montenegro</pre>
At this point, it is unnecessary to have structure to mark sr-CS as being a deprecated prefix of fubar, since a record that that prefix points (CS) to has been deprecated. What would be necessary, however, is to add either "sr-RS" or "sr-ME", or even "sr" as prefixes of fubar so that it would have some valid prefixes.<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Broome, Karen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Karen_Broome@spe.sony.com" target="_blank">Karen_Broome@spe.sony.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">If you deprecate X in the example below and not Y, can you give
me an example of the IANA Registry Record for this scenario?</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Karen</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">
<a href="mailto:mark.edward.davis@gmail.com" target="_blank">mark.edward.davis@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:mark.edward.davis@gmail.com" target="_blank">mark.edward.davis@gmail.com</a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Mark Davis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 04, 2008 4:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Broome, Karen<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Frank Ellermann; <a href="mailto:ietf-languages@alvestrand.no" target="_blank">ietf-languages@alvestrand.no</a><div><div></div><div><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM: pinyin</div></div></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">There is no structure in 4646
or 4646bis for deprecating a prefix X for a subtag Y. However, the same effect
would be achieved by just deprecating X, so I don't think we need such
structure.<br>
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Mark<br>
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<p>On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Broome, Karen <<a href="mailto:Karen_Broome@spe.sony.com" target="_blank">Karen_Broome@spe.sony.com</a>>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hmm. But deprecation occurs on
the entire record. Is there a way to indicate that a single prefix is
deprecated but not the tag? If we can add prefixes later, we ought to be able
to deprecate them too. But I'm not sure how we'd do this in the current
structure.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Karen</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a href="mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no" target="_blank">ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no" target="_blank">ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Davis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 04, 2008 3:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Frank Ellermann</span></p>
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<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ietf-languages@alvestrand.no" target="_blank">ietf-languages@alvestrand.no</a></span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Re: LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM: pinyin</span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">No. According to the RFC, we can add other
prefixes later.<br>
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Mark</p>
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<p>On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Frank Ellermann <<a href="mailto:nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de" target="_blank">nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de</a>>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Randy Presuhn wrote:<br>
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> "why didn't they use '-pinyin'?"</p>
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<p>Just a theoretical thought, if we take -pinyin with prefix<br>
zh-Latn- now there's no way to get rid of the prefix later.<br>
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So if folks later want "pinyin" with prefix cmn-Latn- and<br>
others, but without zh-Latn-, they'd be forced to invent<br>
a new variant, say -pinyin2, and that would allow them to<br>
deprecate -pinyin in favour of -pinyin2.<br>
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If that is exactly what you want (later, when cmn exists),<br>
you could use -pinyin1 now, and deprecate it in favour of<br>
the later "real" -pinyin with the "real" prefix cmn-Latn-<br>
instead of the slightly "unreal" zh-Latn-pinyin1 possible<br>
today.<br>
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Frank</span></p>
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