<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I have no objection to this tag. However,
it does seem to create the possibility (mentioned before) that the same
dialect could be identified as gsw-FR (assuming there are no other gsw
dialects in France). </font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Is it simply up to the user to decide
whether to use regional or variant tagging? Or should some guidelines be
written to indicate a preference for variant tagging over regional tagging
if both exist?</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Regards,</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Karen Broome</font>
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<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no</font>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Request in the body, for the MIME-impaired.<br>
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LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM<br>
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1. Name of requester: St&#xE9;phane Bortzmeyer<br>
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2. E-mail address of requester: bortzmeyer+langtag@nic.fr<br>
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3. Record Requested: <br>
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Type: variant<br>
Subtag: alsatian<br>
Description: Alsatian variant of Alemannic<br>
Description: Els&#xE4;ssisch<br>
Prefix: gsw<br>
Comments: <br>
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4. Intended meaning of the subtag: There is a distinct variety of<br>
Alemannic spoken in Alsace. It is distinct from the language spoken in<br>
Germany and Switzerland partly for political reasons, because Alsace<br>
has been a french province for a long time.<br>
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5. Reference to published description<br>
of the language (book or article):<br>
<br>
* (fr) "L'alsacien, deuxième langue régionale de France"
Insee,<br>
Chiffres pour l'Alsace no. 12, December 2002<br>
http://www.insee.fr/fr/insee_regions/alsace/rfc/docs/cpar12_1.pdf<br>
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* (fr) Brunner, Jean-Jacques. L'alsacien sans peine. ASSiMiL,<br>
2001. ISBN 2-7005-0222-1<br>
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* (fr) Laugel-Erny, Elsa. Cours d'alsacien. Les Editions
du Quai,<br>
1999. ISBN 978-2903548018<br>
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* (fr) Matzen, Raymond, and Léon Daul. Wie Geht's ? Le dialecte
à<br>
la portée de tous La Nuée Bleue, 1999. ISBN 2-7165-0464-4<br>
<br>
* (fr) Matzen, Raymond, and Léon Daul. Wie Steht's ? Lexiques<br>
alsacien et français, Variantes dialectales, Grammaire
La Nuée<br>
Bleue, 2000. ISBN 2-7165-0525-X<br>
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* (de) Frédéric Hartweg: Die Sprachen im Elsass: Kalter Krieg
oder<br>
versöhntes Miteinander?. In: Ingo Kolboom und Bernd
Rill<br>
(Hrsg.): Frankophonie -- nationale und internationale<br>
Dimensionen. Argumente und Materialien zum Zeitgeschehen
35,<br>
München: Hanns Seidel Stiftung, ISBN<br>
3-88795-249-9. http://www.hss.de/downloads/argumente_materialien_35.pdf<br>
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* (de) Hubert Klausmann, Konrad Kunze und Renate Schrambke
(1994):<br>
Kleiner Dialektatlas - Alemannisch und Schwäbisch
in<br>
Baden-Württemberg. Veröff. Alem. Inst. Frbg. Themen
der<br>
Landeskunde 6, Bühl (Baden): Konkordia, 1994.<br>
<br>
* (de) Friedrich Maurer: Neue Forschungen zur südwestdeutschen<br>
Sprachgeschichte. In: Sprachgeographie Beih. Wirkendes
Wort. 21,<br>
S. 119-163, Düsseldorf: Schwann, 1972.<br>
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6. Any other relevant information: Do note there exists several<br>
"sub-dialects" (specifically between North and South of Alsace)
but I<br>
do not know if there is a comprehensive list of them yet. Do note also<br>
that some alsatian local dialects are *not* variant of Alemannic at<br>
all but Franconian or even Roman languages. Alsatian is still in<br>
common use in Alsace, spoken and written. There is a localization of<br>
Microsoft Word<br>
(http://www.faz.net/s/Rub4C34FD0B1A7E46B88B0653D6358499FF/Doc~E7E48128AB8C348E1BCEB1EAF2D4105EA~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html)<br>
but I do not know if they use proper language tags.<br>
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