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<BR>I think I would support this request with the guidelines as suggested by Karen.<BR>
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Also I would not mind seeing hex's used for the whole request.<BR>
But that's not necessary at this point, as Frank pointed out.<BR>
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--C. E. Whitehead<BR>
<A href="mailto:cewcathar@hotmail.com">cewcathar@hotmail.com</A><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR>From: Karen_Broome@spe.sony.com<BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>I have no objection to this tag. However, it does seem to create the possibility (mentioned before) that the same dialect could be identified as gsw-FR (assuming there are no other gsw dialects in France). </FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Is it simply up to the user to decide whether to use regional or variant tagging? Or should some guidelines be written to indicate a preference for variant tagging over regional tagging if both exist?</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Regards,</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Karen Broome</FONT> <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<TD width="40%"><FONT face=sans-serif size=1><B>Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr></B> </FONT><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>Sent by: ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no</FONT>
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<TD><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>Re: Addition request: alsatian</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
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<TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><BR><TT><FONT size=2>Request in the body, for the MIME-impaired.<BR><BR>LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM<BR><BR>1. Name of requester: St&#xE9;phane Bortzmeyer<BR><BR>2. E-mail address of requester: bortzmeyer+langtag@nic.fr<BR><BR>3. Record Requested: <BR><BR> Type: variant<BR> Subtag: alsatian<BR> Description: Alsatian variant of Alemannic<BR> Description: Els&#xE4;ssisch<BR> Prefix: gsw<BR> Comments: <BR><BR>4. Intended meaning of the subtag: There is a distinct variety of<BR>Alemannic spoken in Alsace. It is distinct from the language spoken in<BR>Germany and Switzerland partly for political reasons, because Alsace<BR>has been a french province for a long time.<BR><BR>5. Reference to published description<BR>of the language (book or article):<BR><BR> * (fr) "L'alsacien, deuxième langue régionale de France" Insee,<BR> Chiffres pour l'Alsace no. 12, December 2002<BR> http://www.insee.fr/fr/insee_regions/alsace/rfc/docs/cpar12_1.pdf<BR><BR> * (fr) Brunner, Jean-Jacques. L'alsacien sans peine. ASSiMiL,<BR> 2001. ISBN 2-7005-0222-1<BR><BR> * (fr) Laugel-Erny, Elsa. Cours d'alsacien. Les Editions du Quai,<BR> 1999. ISBN 978-2903548018<BR><BR> * (fr) Matzen, Raymond, and Léon Daul. Wie Geht's ? Le dialecte à<BR> la portée de tous La Nuée Bleue, 1999. ISBN 2-7165-0464-4<BR><BR> * (fr) Matzen, Raymond, and Léon Daul. Wie Steht's ? Lexiques<BR> alsacien et français, Variantes dialectales, Grammaire La Nuée<BR> Bleue, 2000. ISBN 2-7165-0525-X<BR><BR> * (de) Frédéric Hartweg: Die Sprachen im Elsass: Kalter Krieg oder<BR> versöhntes Miteinander?. In: Ingo Kolboom und Bernd Rill<BR> (Hrsg.): Frankophonie -- nationale und internationale<BR> Dimensionen. Argumente und Materialien zum Zeitgeschehen 35,<BR> München: Hanns Seidel Stiftung, ISBN<BR> 3-88795-249-9. http://www.hss.de/downloads/argumente_materialien_35.pdf<BR><BR> * (de) Hubert Klausmann, Konrad Kunze und Renate Schrambke (1994):<BR> Kleiner Dialektatlas - Alemannisch und Schwäbisch in<BR> Baden-Württemberg. Veröff. Alem. Inst. Frbg. Themen der<BR> Landeskunde 6, Bühl (Baden): Konkordia, 1994.<BR><BR> * (de) Friedrich Maurer: Neue Forschungen zur südwestdeutschen<BR> Sprachgeschichte. In: Sprachgeographie Beih. Wirkendes Wort. 21,<BR> S. 119-163, Düsseldorf: Schwann, 1972.<BR><BR>6. Any other relevant information: Do note there exists several<BR>"sub-dialects" (specifically between North and South of Alsace) but I<BR>do not know if there is a comprehensive list of them yet. Do note also<BR>that some alsatian local dialects are *not* variant of Alemannic at<BR>all but Franconian or even Roman languages. Alsatian is still in<BR>common use in Alsace, spoken and written. There is a localization of<BR>Microsoft Word<BR>(http://www.faz.net/s/Rub4C34FD0B1A7E46B88B0653D6358499FF/Doc~E7E48128AB8C348E1BCEB1EAF2D4105EA~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html)<BR>but I do not know if they use proper language tags.<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Ietf-languages mailing list<BR>Ietf-languages@alvestrand.no<BR>http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages<BR><BR></FONT></TT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></body>
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