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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This is not about an artificial language; it&#8217;s about an
invented, non-conventional orthography (or set of orthographies) for French.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If there is a persistent user community beyond just the
inventors that want to use this, then I think it&#8217;s a reasonable candidate for a
tag. We just want to see evidence that this has such a user community. We don&#8217;t
want to register tags that aren&#8217;t going to get used except by a small group of
inventors or for an insignificantly-short period of time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no
[mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no] <b>On Behalf Of </b>CE Whitehead<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 10, 2007 4:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ietf-languages@iana.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Proposal for a new variant subtag of the french language
(fr)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Hi all:<br>
<br>
I think if there are people using this spelling, and there are pages online
using it, then this registration request does meet requirements;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
both artificial or invented languages and natural languages are languages;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
I see nothing saying that we register natural languages only.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
If some members object, I hope their objections will be reasonable so that this
process does not get to be arbitrary.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thanks.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
--C. E. Whitehead<br>
<a href="mailto:cewcathar@hotmail.com">cewcathar@hotmail.com</a><br>
<br>
&gt; From: dewell@roadrunner.com<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; The ietf-languages group may not wish to be known as the place
where <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; people go to get their own inventions registered, similar to
Omniglot <br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; or LangMaker for constructed scripts.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Doesn't matter. The question is simply whether the registration <br>
&gt; &gt; request meets the requirements established by RFC 4646.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Section 3.5 provides for the possibility of registration requests being <br>
&gt; rejected &quot;because of significant objections raised on the list.&quot;
I'm <br>
&gt; raising, if not significant objections, at least some legitimate <br>
&gt; questions that I feel merit answers, lest they turn into significant <br>
&gt; objections. I don't see any process failure here.<br>
&gt; <br>
&nbsp;<br>
Hmmf, let's not be arbitrary at least.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; CE Whitehead &lt;cewcathar at hotmail dot com&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; As for Doug's objection, I have to say that I concur with Randy--<br>
&gt; &gt; if it is used online, we register it.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I have three pages on my Web site describing my invented script and four <br>
&gt; pages of sample text in that script, encoded using the Unicode PUA and <br>
&gt; displayable using a well-known, freely available font. Should I propose <br>
&gt; a variant subtag for my script? (Answer: No.)<br>
&gt; <br>
(I never voted 'no')<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Michael Everson &lt;everson at evertype dot com&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; &gt; Why are you all just full of hate?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Huh?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Two years ago I suggested registering a language subtag for Unilingua, a <br>
&gt; language constructed in 1965 and the subject of a Featured Book&#8482; on <br>
&gt; Wikibooks. The suggestion was shot down like a slow duck with a red <br>
&gt; bull's-eye painted on its side. Should I propose it again? (Answer: <br>
&gt; No.)<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; What is so different about M. Périard's orthography? Is it that he got <br>
&gt; the City of Montréal to include a few pages on their site? Is it that <br>
&gt; he has a major university research group behind his effort? I don't <br>
&gt; know what the guidelines are.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Doug Ewell * Fullerton, California, USA * RFC 4645 * UTN #14<br>
&gt; http://home.roadrunner.com/~dewell<br>
&gt; http://www1.ietf.org/html.charters/ltru-charter.html<br>
&gt; http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages &#710;<br>
&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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