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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You should give us some evidence that there is such a
significant community asking for this. A page buried on iforum.montreal.ca with
no easily-accessible links has the appearance of nothing more than an
experiment by the inventors that could very well disappear tomorrow. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you showed us that page requests from across the <a
href="http://www.iforum.montreal.ca">www.iforum.montreal.ca</a> site with http accept-language=”fr-orthograf”
were going to get returned content in that variety, that would be a little
better evidence. Better still would be multiple sites.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no
[mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mario Périard<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 07, 2007 3:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ietf-languages@iana.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Proposal for a subtag registration (fr-2004-ORTOGRAF)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Thousands are using 'ortograf alternativ'
most of them have language disabilities and they are waiting for more support.
You can think this is not a serious concern but for all of these think
that is not a joke or a vanity spelling. <br>
<br>
> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 22:45:44 +0000<br>
> To: ietf-languages@iana.org<br>
> From: everson@evertype.com<br>
> CC: <br>
> Subject: Re: Proposal for a subtag registration (fr-2004-ORTOGRAF)<br>
> <br>
> At 16:21 -0500 2007-12-07, Mario Périard wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > 5. Reference to published description<br>
> > of the language (book or article):<br>
> > ex. "Le peti prinse" the version in <br>
> >alternate is available (you can order or <br>
> >download it at <br>
>
><http://www.lulu.com/content/1604695>http://www.lulu.com/content/1604695<br>
> <br>
> So far, I consider this a vanity orthography. <br>
> Please supply four more books or articles written <br>
> in the orthography, and not from samizdat <br>
> publishers.<br>
> <br>
> > 6. Any other relevant information:<br>
> >In 2004 researchers of the university of <br>
> >Montreal ( <br>
>
>http://www.iforum.umontreal.ca/Forum/ArchivesForum/2003-2004/040405/article3430.htm
<br>
> >)<br>
> <br>
> This article is *in* standard French.<br>
> <br>
> >Since then, this alternate spelling is <br>
> >spreading. Government bodies uses it (ex. City <br>
> >of Montreal - <br>
>
>http://ville.montreal.qc.ca/portal/page?_pageid=2496,3086502&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL
<br>
> >)<br>
> <br>
> Good gods. How on earth is someone with <br>
> "inkapasité intélêktuêl" supposed to parse "Vou <br>
> z'alé"? What is the z' supposed to refer to? <br>
> (That is me with my linguist's hat on criticizing <br>
> the orthography per se.)<br>
> <br>
> >as well as private firms (ex. Sociétélogique - <br>
>
>http://www.societelogique.org/dev/contenu/?page=simple/bienvenue&langue=si
<br>
> >)<br>
> <br>
> There are more pages here than at the previous site.<br>
> <br>
> >Today, there are also several groups (ex. <br>
> >http://www.ortograf.net - <br>
> >http://www.ortograf.net)<br>
> <br>
> That is one group only. There is also <br>
> http://www.ortograf.com/ which is Scrabble in <br>
> Standard French.<br>
> <br>
> >promoting this spelling which currently are <br>
> >translating books, softwares, web sites, etc. in <br>
> >order ti give a more complete access to this new <br>
> >spelling standard.<br>
> <br>
> Please list 50 distinct items, be they books, websites, or software.<br>
> <br>
> >A new variant subtag of the french (fr) is now <br>
> >necessary to facilitate the process of <br>
> >localization in the new spelling<br>
> ><br>
> >Livres, DVDs, gadgets, musique et bien plus. <br>
>
><http://magasiner.sympatico.msn.ca/content/shp/?ctid=8314,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=1761027&tcode=Noel>Magasinez
<br>
> >en ligne dès aujourd'hui avec Sympatico / MSN <br>
> >Magasiner!<br>
> <br>
> This link has nothing in this orthography.<br>
> <br>
> I would like to see some more evidence that this is not a vanity
orthography.<br>
> -- <br>
> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com<br>
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