<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I am willing to send a revised request
based on this if others agree that naming the region, rather than an adjective
representing the region is preferable. I could also change the description
slightly to include a broader range of Scottish dialects. I need to go
a meeting first this morning, but I'd love to hear what others prefer between
"Scottish" and "Scotland" if you have a strong opinion
one way or another. You can send me these notes privately or to the list.<br>
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<br><tt><font size=2>I think I agree. However, I like Doug's idea
of en-Scotland, en-Wales etc.<br>
as I think there would be less likelihood of mistagging Scots than with<br>
en-Scottish.<br>
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Debbie<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no<br>
> [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of<br>
> Caoimhin O Donnaile<br>
> Sent: 22 August 2007 15:07<br>
> To: Karen_Broome@spe.sony.com<br>
> Cc: IETF Languages Discussion; ltru@ietf.org<br>
> Subject: Re: Scottish English (was: LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM)<br>
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> Karen,<br>
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> > I don't think what I'm seeing referred to as Standard<br>
> Scottish English<br>
> > is what you're referencing below. I don't see it mentioned as
a<br>
> > "business dialect". Do you have a link where this is
described?<br>
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> I didn't mean to suggest that Standard Scottish English is a<br>
> business dialect - just that if you wanted to hear what could<br>
> be described as "Standard Scottish English", a meeting of<br>
> Scottish businessmen would be the kind of place to go to.<br>
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> There isn't any "standard" for Scottish English, of course.<br>
> The term "Standard Scottish English" might be used by some<br>
> people in a broad sense to mean "Scottish English" - English<br>
> speech which might sound Scottish but isn't Scots. But I<br>
> think it would mostly be used in a narrow sense to mean the<br>
> kind of speech which many educated well-off people in<br>
> Scotland would gravitate towards. They wouldn't gravitate<br>
> towards English "Received Pronunciation" - If they did it<br>
> would just cause amusement.<br>
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> Here are a couple of references taking the view that<br>
> "Standard Scottish English" refers to the speech of educated<br>
> well-to-do Scots:<br>
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> http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/recordings/individual/scotland-mor<br>
> ningside-currie-audrey.shtml<br>
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> http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/recordings/individual/scotland-kel<br>
> vinside-cameron-james.shtml<br>
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> Such a definition would exclude, I expect, most of the speech<br>
> in the films you need to catalogue, so I think it is best to<br>
> just say "Scottish English" rather than "Standard Scottish
English".<br>
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> Caoimhín<br>
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