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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It’s fairly clear to me that mis is considered a collection in ISO
639-2: the name is “</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#333333'>Miscellaneous languages</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>”, and by definition the use
of “languages” in the name makes it a collection.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Whether the constraint “which don’t belong…” is a breaking
change is another question.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Davis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 13, 2007 10:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Frank Ellermann<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ietf-languages@alvestrand.no<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: "mis" update review request<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Saying that mis is a collection
is not breaking, but also not substatiated by ISO 639-2.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/normtext.html">http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/normtext.html</a><br>
<a href="http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php">http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php</a><br>
<br>
Saying that "which don't belong to any other collection" is a
breaking change, *and* is not substantiated by ISO 639-2 at the time the code
was added to the registry (or even now). <br>
<br>
Mark<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote>On 4/13/07, <b>Frank Ellermann</b>
<<a href="mailto:nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de">nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Mark Davis wrote:<br>
<br>
> We are not working with ISO 639-3 in BCP 47!<br>
<br>
John just noted that it's exactly the same for ISO 639-2,<br>
see <<a href="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.languages/4443">http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.ietf.languages/4443
</a>><br>
<br>
To clarify it we can replace "639-3" by "639-2" in the<br>
updated comment:<br>
<br>
| A collection of unrelated languages which don't belong<br>
| to any other ISO 639-2 collection<br>
<br>
Frank<br>
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Mark <o:p></o:p></p>
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