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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I suspect that for the application Karen
is dealing with, fine-grained distinctions between varieties of Scottish
English (or varieties of Scots) is probably not that helpful: generally, the
people cataloguing the content and the people retrieving the content aren’t
going to know how to tell them apart. I suspect that all she cares about is the
difference between heavily-Scottish-accented English (if it isn’t Scots)
and mildly-Scottish-accented English.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no
[mailto:ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Speechways@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 19, 2005
9:22 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> jcowan@reutershealth.com;
Karen_Broome@spe.sony.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> ietf-languages@iana.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Scottish English</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Dear Karen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>John's solution seems right at this stage
of the game. In the longer term, however, we shall need a system which
allows as much accuracy in tagging varieties of speech as in tagging
varieties of script. There are of course wide variations within Scots and
within Scottish English, which we are dealing with in our proposals for 639-6
(using 4-letter tags).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>In a message dated 10/20/2005 4:11:31 AM
GMT Daylight Time, jcowan@reutershealth.com writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Karen_Broome@spe.sony.com
scripsit:<br>
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> I have a film here that has an original language of heavily accented <br>
> Scottish English. The actors from the original version dubbed a second <br>
> version of the film with less of a Scottish accent (en-GB). If I want to <br>
> distinguish the two versions by language and codify the difference between
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> Scottish English and English English, how can I do this in an <br>
> RFC-3066-compatible way?<br>
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If, as I suspect, the original film is in Scots, then sco is an appropriate<br>
tag. Standard English with a Scottish accent would be registerable as<br>
en-gb-scottish, or you could just tag it en in this case.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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