Clarification about language tag
Doug Ewell
doug at ewellic.org
Tue Dec 20 19:32:02 CET 2016
And if you are following BCP 47, you need to use the IANA Language Subtag Registry as the source of language subtags, and not worry about ISO 639-1 and 639-3 and the rest.
--Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org
-------- Original message --------From: Misha.Wolf at thomsonreuters.com Date: 12/20/16 10:34 (GMT-07:00) To: chiarcos at informatik.uni-frankfurt.de, mvalle at cscs.ch Cc: ietf-languages at iana.org, semantic-web at w3.org, christian.chiarcos at web.de Subject: RE: Clarification about language tag
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Whether you work with modern-day languages or any other languages, you
must follow BCP47.
And, in following BCP-47, you must be prepared to use whatever language
tag length is required, not assume that all language tags will have the
same length.
Consider, for example, these longer language tags:
- sr-Cyrl = Serbian (Cyrillic)
- sr-Latn = Serbian (Latin)
- uz-Cyrl = Uzbek (Cyrillic)
- uz-Latn = Uzbek (Latin)
Regards,
Misha
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Chiarcos [mailto:chiarcos at informatik.uni-frankfurt.de]
Sent: 20 December 2016 17:19
To: semantic-web at w3.org Web; Mario Valle
Cc: christian.chiarcos at web.de
Subject: Re: Clarification about language tag
Dear Mario,
> In Turtle syntax the @lang tag syntax refers to BCP47 that states:
>
> language = 2*3ALPHA ; shortest ISO 639 code
>
> That is, the language code (I ignore all the variants here) should be 2
> or 3 characters.
This means you should use the two-letter code for a language that has one
(@en) even if it does have a three-letter code (@eng). Not every language
does have a two-letter code.
> Indeed ISO 639 (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.loc.gov_standards_iso639-2D2_php_code-5Flist.php&d=CwIFbA&c=4ZIZThykDLcoWk-GVjSLm9hvvvzvGv0FLoWSRuCSs5Q&r=VsO6ShdzLK20Tv5zCK2CUVP_oB340q3grZz3gJtouLE&m=SnuMGpH9aJBpJG4G8i3x6v1GSkDNibOUkGqj0zyTv_o&s=TEzQYtkmHF-FAqtk-AbmPZIVKuLy0UGpXXfHOfCIwQ0&e= )
> lists both 2 and 3 chars codes (e.g., English: 'en' and 'eng').
>
> But in all Turtle examples I have found the language code has 2 chars.
> Is it a requirement or is simply a tradition? This means, could I write
> "Pancake"@eng?
>
> The question arises because WordNet contains 3 chars codes, so to
> transform into triples, should/shouldn't I convert it to 2 characters?
The reason is that the 2-character codes are insufficient from the
perspective of multilingual NLP or linguistics where ISO 639-3 is much
more established (and somewhat better defined) than ISO 639-1 2-letter
codes. Therefore, people developing language resources (like WordNet)
sometimes tend to neglect ISO 639-1 codes altogether. I also went that way
at times. In terms of BCP47, however, this is a mistake and should be
fixed. As long as you work with modern-day major languages only and you
don't see issues with the 2-letter codes for your task/resource, you
should definitely follow BCP47 and use 2-letter codes wherever possible.
Best,
Christian
>
> Thanks for your patience
>
> mario
>
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