Appeal to ISO 639 RA in support of Elfdalian

Mats Blakstad mats.gbproject at gmail.com
Wed Apr 13 03:36:59 CEST 2016


Hi again

I've got help to collect more information about use of Elfdalian in
literature & media, and academic titles about the language. Maybe it can
also be forwarded to those who got the appeal letter?

Here is link to the list:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2kmxWs5H0hQcXVySDA1OUs0UEU/view?usp=sharing


2016-03-06 14:01 GMT+01:00 Michael Everson <everson at evertype.com>:

> I will replace Bokmål with Norwegian.
>
>
> > On 6 Mar 2016, at 11:48, Mats Blakstad <mats.gbproject at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2016-03-05 19:44 GMT+01:00 Michael Everson <everson at evertype.com>:
> > ​ Elfdalian is not merely a dialect, but rather is as distinct from
> Swedish as Bokmål is (indeed, as distinct from Swedish as Iceland is);
> >
> > Bokmål is one of the written standards of Norwegian (we don't speak
> standarized like in Germany and Sweden, we only use it in written form). If
> you ask a Norwegian person if they speak Nynorsk or Bokmål they will find
> the question kind of funny as we normally consider it like we speak the
> same language; Norwegian, but people use different written standards of
> Norwegian; Bokmål and Nynorsk. Normally the west-coast of Norway is
> consiered "nynorsk"-area, but in the cities and some other places they
> choose to rather use Bokmål. This is because of rural-urban conflicts that
> gave roots to the Norwegian language conflict. Each municipality in Norway
> can choose themselves what written form they want to use. Like my own city
> Kristiansand uses Bokmål, even though the dialect maybe have more
> similarities with Nynorsk. The dialect is also influenced by Danish, which
> is what Bokmål is constructed from, people sometimes think about
> south-norwegians as speaking like "Danish Norwegian". I think the Norwegian
> dialect borders are a little bit more complex than the nynorsk/bokmål
> division.
> >
> > I think we should either say "... as distinct from standard Swedish as
> Bokmål" or "... as distinct from Swedish as Norwegian". However. as far as
> I know nobody ever did a test about the distanse of Norwegian and
> Elfdalian/Övdalian from Swedish. According to Östen Dahl (Professor
> Emeritus of General Linguistics, Stockholm University) who measured the
> distance from different dialects and languages from Swedish with the help
> of Swadesh’ glossary, the lexical distance between Swedish and Elfdalian is
> as big as the distance between Swedish and Icelandic. Maybe it is enough to
> refer to his work?
>
> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
>
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