Adding variant subtag 'erzgeb' for Erzgebirgisch (was: Requeststhathave been on hold)

[Peter Constable]

I think I'd need to see a pretty strong argument before I supported using a collection code as a prefix for any subtag -- a big +1 from me on that point.


Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Kent Karlsson
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:58 AM
To: ietf-languages at iana.org
Subject: Re: Adding variant subtag 'erzgeb' for Erzgebirgisch (was: Requeststhathave been on hold)

I agree with Randy here.

And as a matter of principle I would object to using a collection code as a registered "Prefix" for any subtag. I argued for the inclusion in the registry of the information that a code is a collection code just to ward off the use of collection codes (recognising that we could not really deprecate them, as they are usable in "lack-of-precise info" cases).

As for the "individual language" prefix alternatives here, please choose
*one* only, the one most appropriate.

    /kent k



Den 2009-08-11 19.35, skrev "Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn at mindspring.com>:

> Hi -
> 
>> From: "CE Whitehead" <cewcathar at hotmail.com>
>> To: <ietf-languages at iana.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:14 AM
>> Subject: Adding variant subtag 'erzgeb' for Erzgebirgisch (was:
>> Requeststhathave been on hold)
> ...
>> Normally I agree on this, and I am probably going to defer to Thomas 
>> Goldammer on this matter; but the more I think about it the more it 
>> makes sense to register this subtag with a prefix [gem] and then wait 
>> for research to add a second prefix; [gem] is now a collection code, 
>> right?  So using [gem] as the prefix will enable matching algorithms 
>> to work.
> ...
> 
> I do not see how 'gem' would be preferable as a prefix for purposes of 
> matching.
> "Remove from right" fallback would be extraordinarily unlikely to 
> yield useful results with 'gem' as a prefix.  Even 'de' (or perhaps 
> even 'en') as a prefix would provide more *pragmatically* useful 
> results.  :-)  The collection codes really only make sense in cases 
> where one knows that something is in one of a set of languages, but 
> lacks the expert knowledge to determine precisely which one.  That's 
> not the case here, where the question is rather one of how to label 
> something which *has* been identified.
> 
> Randy
> 
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