Request for variant subtag fr 16th-c 17th-c RESUBMISSION

[Addison Phillips]

Hi,

I fail to understand how this pair of submissions will make sense to 
language taggers looking at the registry. The variants proposed are not 
separately described from medieval and modern French respectively. In 
fact, the descriptions appear to *be* medieval and modern French. Based 
on these subtags, one might make the assumption that 'frm' means "prior 
to 1606" and 'fr' means "after 1606".

In other words, what variation do these variants describe, please?

I might be happier if "1606nict" were a variant for 'fr', allowing 
content to all be in 'fr' French, with variations for pre-modern 
(fr-1606nict) and modern (fr, or, perhaps, fr-FR).

Please note, I'm not opposing these registrations per se. I'm just 
unclear (having mostly ignore previous conversation on the topic) how 
anyone unfamiliar with that email thread would figure out what to use 
these subtags for.

Best Regards,

Addison

CE Whitehead wrote:
> Hi!
> Once more I'll try to get two subtags.
> The two requests for the subtags are below, one is for a subtag with frm 
> as the prefix, and one is for a subtag with fr as the prefix.
> Thanks.
> 
> --C. E. Whitehead
> cewcathar at hotmail.com
> * * *
> 
> First Request for subtag (for prefix frm)
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
> 1. Name of requester:  C. E. Whitehead
> 2. E-mail address of requester: cewcathar at hotmail.com
> 3. Record Requested:
> Type: Variant
> Subtag:  1606Nict
>         (or alternately 16siecle)
> Description: 16th century French as in Jean Nicot, "Thresor de la langue 
> francoyse" 1606; ARTFL Project, University of Chicago:
> http://portail.atilf.fr/dictionnaires/TLF-NICOT/index.htm
> Prefix: frm
> Preferred-Value:
> Deprecated:
> Suppress-Script:
> Comments:
> 
> 4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
> 5. Reference to published description
> of the language (book or article):
> 
> 
> * Jean Nicot, "Thresor de la langue francoyse" 1606; ARTFL Project, 
> University of Chicago:
> http://portail.atilf.fr/dictionnaires/TLF-NICOT/index.htm
> 
> * Joachim du Bellay, La deffence et illustration de la langue francoyse, 
> 1549; ed critique by Henri Chamard, Geneve, Slatkine Rpt. 1969
> 
> * Montaigne, "Essais"
> 
> 6. Any other relevant information:
> 
> * * *
> 
> 2nd request (for prefix fr)
> 
> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM
> 1. Name of requester:  C. E. Whitehead
> 2. E-mail address of requester: cewcathar at hotmail.com
> 3. Record Requested:
> 
> Type: Variant
> Subtag:  1694acad
>              alternately 17siecle
> Description: French as catalogued in the "Dictionnaire de l'acad�me 
> fran�oise", 4eme ed. 1694; which is 17th century French, or early Modern 
> French, sometimes with elements of Middle French; includes 17th century 
> French as used in the Americas
> Prefix: fr
> Preferred-Value:
> Deprecated:
> Suppress-Script:
> Comments: with elements of Middle and Modern French and not completely 
> stable; the 17th century texts that this subtag indicates are often 
> translated into modern French
> 
> 4. Intended meaning of the subtag:
> 5. Reference to published description
> of the language (book or article):
> 
> * Dictionnaire de l'acad�me fran�oise, 4eme ed. 1694; RTFL Project, 
> University of Chicago:
> http://portail.atilf.fr/dictionnaires/ACADEMIE/index.htm
> 
> * F�nelon, Fran�ois de Salignac de La Mothe (1984), Fenelon's Letter to 
> the French Academy : with an introduction and commentary.
> 
> *  http://www.arlea.fr/spip.php?article278 (note that 17th century 
> writer Suchon has to be translated into modern French)
> 
> *
> http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/treasures/giants/lasalle/lasalle-01.html
> http://teacherweb.com/FL/Cocoa/CEWhitehead/HTMLPage15.stm
> 
> * Ayres-Bennett, Wendy (2004), Sociolinguistic variation in 
> seventeenth-century France : methodology and case studies.
> 
> 
> 6. Any other relevant information:
> 
> 
> * * *
> --C. E. Whitehead
> cewcathar at hotmail.com
> 
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Addison Phillips
Globalization Architect -- Yahoo! Inc.

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