[Ltru] Re: Scottish English (was: LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION
FORM)
Addison Phillips
addison at yahoo-inc.com
Wed Aug 22 20:31:13 CEST 2007
To which I'll add another, i.e. +2
Mark Davis wrote:
> +1
>
> On 8/22/07, *Peter Constable* <petercon at microsoft.com
> <mailto:petercon at microsoft.com>> wrote:
>
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> > bounces at alvestrand.no <mailto:bounces at alvestrand.no>] On Behalf
> Of Addison Phillips
>
>
> > OTOH, there was quite a long thread this year on this list about the
> > practical limits of language tags. They cannot be expected to
> identify
> > every distinct variation in language. In most cases we are all
> > satisfied
> > to say that "en" is English... and sometimes add a closer regional
> > variation. But truly detailed linguistic variation begins to test the
> > capabilities of tags. In the case of "en-scottish", I can see the
> > justification, but am concerned about where the line gets drawn.
>
> Perhaps it's a matter of expectations. Having a "scottish" subtag
> doesn't mean that every product needs to use it. Perhaps that in
> itself implies that not every product needs to guarantee a request
> for "en-scottish" can be serviced with the kind of results that the
> requester might be expecting. Perhaps the film and TV industry cares
> about a Scottish/"British" distinction, but some other community
> cares about some other way of tiling that bit of the plane.
>
> Welcome to the world of dialects! That is precisely why Gary Simons
> and I concluded years ago that a standard that attempts to do for
> dialects what 639-3 attempts for languages is simply implausible.
>
> Rather, the only thing that seemed plausible was for communities to
> have a way to register the distinctions they care about. Well, here
> we are! Someone from one community wants to register "Scottish" to
> distinguish it from "British". Unless there's reason to believe
> Karen's need isn't applicable to her industry segment as a whole
> (which I strongly doubt), then I'm not sure what better approach
> there is.
>
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> Peter
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