[iso15924-jac] Re: Phonetic orthographies
Marion Gunn
mgunn at egt.ie
Thu Nov 23 15:00:33 CET 2006
On 23 Nov 2006, at 00:05, scríobh Kenneth Whistler:
> Peter,
> Well, even this first point is problematical, because it immediately
> runs afoul of Hans and Hant, which is an orthographic distinction
> in Han, encoded as a "script variant" in 15924, despite the fact
> that it applies only to one language...
I agree. (That is self-evident.) Anyway, IPA is applicable to
languages in general.
On 22 Nov 2006, at 19:44, scríobh Kenneth Whistler:
> ... Sorry, I wouldn't take your job. ;-)
Nor I yours, but I thank you for your kindness in giving it real
consideration.:-)
> Yes, Marion!! If you will read, please. I don't consider
> philological work on recordings of now-extinct languages to
> be "salvage linguistic fieldwork."
Nor do I - I'd rather hear more of your current work with cultural
elements which can still be salvaged (even if only by transcribing
from scratchy tapes - which I have done it myself, just like you).
For the record, having seen and used excellent IPA transcriptions of
Irish speech done by Germans unskilled in our grammar or orthography,
whom we bless because we, as native dialectologists, have found their
work invaluable for analyzing things independent of orthographies,
such as realtime syntax, pronunciation, etc. and we can easily
transcribe from IPA into something the young generation can
assimilate without knowing anything of the trouble we went to to
secure it.
> I worked in California
> in the mid-70's with speakers of a profoundly moribund
> language...
I congratulate you on that, and hope any similar work you and your
compatriots are currently doing for endangered native American
language communities may succeed, as work deserving of every blessing.
On 22 Nov 2006, at 03:23, scríobh Martin Hosken:
> IPA is a script/transcription system that is used for multiple
> languages
> even more than Roman script. I.e. a reader of IPA can do a pretty good
> job of sounding out text in a language written using it, that they do
> not know...
Amen.
mg
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Marion Gunn * EGTeo (Estab.1991)
27 Páirc an Fhéithlinn, Baile an
Bhóthair, Co. Átha Cliath, Éire.
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