David Crystal's red alert
Doug Ewell
dewell at adelphia.net
Sun Nov 20 21:49:51 CET 2005
JFC (Jefsey) Morfin <jefsey at jefsey dot com> wrote:
> Your own remark on "Guam" shows that you are not happy with the
> obligation to only respect RFC 3066.
I said no such thing. You lie again. I said that some language-region
combinations are preposterous from the standpoint of identifying
language variants. I never said I was "not happy" with that situation.
Any other mechanism would have its own disadvantages.
> My position only goes a step
> further in term of security: I have no objection to _also_ support
> RFC 3066, I have no objection to even set-it up as a _default_. I
> have a very deep ethic concern at making it _exclusive_. This leads
> this group to twist reality and spoil a great and good job to _only_
> match it. I have a practical deep problem in having no way to
> non-conflictingly match other needs in term of modes, tones, styles,
> mediums, dates, sociolinguistic or trade entities, etc. etc.
Of course there is a way to do this. Write up your own specification
and follow it. We've been saying this for a year now.
> In this I share the "red alert". What happened in Tunis, for example,
> just after the UNESCO GA where the mood was different, gives me the
> bitter feeling of a Monroe split - in addition to the perfectly
> understandable and acceptable technical, political, economical and
> societal positions of the various sides.
>
> The "red alert" is for this group to make sure that its work (which
> will greatly extend with RFC 3066 bis if applied) has ethical effects.
> This is the same kind of moral concerns as the people of the Manhattan
> Project had. And I think the impact on the people of the world -
> through their language and cultures - is of the same magnitude.
Maybe someone should write to Professor Crystal and ask what he thinks
of RFC 3066 and language tagging, instead of putting words in his mouth.
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Doug Ewell
Fullerton, California, USA
http://users.adelphia.net/~dewell/
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