Proposed Successor to RFC 3066 (language tags)
Debbie Garside
debbie at ictmarketing.co.uk
Wed Nov 26 16:14:03 CET 2003
As an expert in languages and coding systems, I am sorry that you cannot see
the use of the Linguasphere product in globalisation/defence/mobile
technologies/internet applications to mention but a few. As to the
Linguasphere database being expensive... it has never been offered for sale.
The printed register is available for £100 plus P+P to interested parties.
However, Linguasphere have given many many copies of the register away free
in exchange for updated information from experts such as yourself. If you
would like a copy of the Register and would like to suggest corrections or
make comments on its content you will find our response most welcoming;
Indeed Linguasphere actively encourages contact with linguists worldwide in
order to correct, add and update the information.
I see that you are based in Dublin, I will have occasion to be in Dublin 4-5
times a year for the next 3 years starting in January (in relation to
another international project with Irish partners based in Dublin) I would
welcome the opportunity to meet with you in order to discuss the methodology
for distinguishing language and dialect and to deliver a copy of the
Linguasphere register at the same time.
Kind regards
Debbie Garside
-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no
[mailto:ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no]On Behalf Of Michael
Everson
Sent: 25 November 2003 09:48
To: ietf-languages at iana.org
Cc: iso639 at dkuug.dk
Subject: RE: Proposed Successor to RFC 3066 (language tags)
At 14:18 +0000 2003-11-24, Debbie Garside wrote:
>Linguasphere ICT are developing ISO 639-6. In a nutshell, 639-6 will bring
>all the IS0 639 family together. We will be proposing unique alpha4 codes
>for each individual language/dialect. Further proposals are scheduled for
>May 2004 with regard to the dating of languages/dialects and a structuring
>code. Linguasphere ICT has also related each language to its hierachical
>mother via the alpha4 coding system; in excess of 25,000 languages and
>dialects have already been coded in this way.(you might note I am not a
>linguist but am more computer orientated).
I would reject such a standard. In the first place Linguasphere's
database is expensive and unavailable; in the second, what I have
seen of it (the PDF about Irish available on its web site) make me
deeply distrustful of its methodology for distinguishing "language"
and "dialect". It is doubtful that such a level of granularity is
either useful or desirable in an ISO standard.
>As far as I am aware, SIL are on track with 639-3, indeed a draft CD has
>been circulated for comments by end Dec 2003. I am sure Havard will
respond
>on this with schedules.
I haven't seen it, but it is difficult to follow the workings of that
committee because of the way documents and information are
distributed.
>We would very much welcome your input on this important extension of the
ISO
>639 family.
As an expert in languages and coding, quite honestly, I would say
"don't bother".
--
Michael Everson * * Everson Typography * * http://www.evertype.com
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