<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">mark, apologies I was not on email while running the meeting - eric brunner williams was on jabber and seemed to be forwarding your points.<div><br></div><div>I think the point about lossless transformation did get made </div><div><br></div><div>vint</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 27, 2009, at 7:37 AM, Mark Davis ⌛ wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">The NFD argument is completely specious. John mentioned the transformations to NFD and NFKC; but neither is relevant.<br><br>Any transformation between NFD and from NFC is lossless - and any transformation to NFKC would change the label.<br> <br>...<br><br>The mapping IS idempotent.<br><br>...<br><br>This is quite frustrating, since I'm listening to conversations, and can't respond, because jabber isn't working.<br><br clear="all">Mark<br> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 04:30, Mark Davis ⌛ <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark@macchiato.com">mark@macchiato.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> John is saying that "some operating systems are twitchy" (about mapping). But there are no specifics given; no evidence.<br><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">Mark</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 04:27, Mark Davis ⌛ <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mark@macchiato.com" target="_blank">mark@macchiato.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> The jabber room doesn't appear to be working, or at least there isn't anyone responding.<br><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">Mark</font><div><div></div><div><br> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 03:17, Vint Cerf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vint@google.com" target="_blank">vint@google.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div style="word-wrap: break-word;">relevant destinations are found at:<div><br></div><div><a href="http://tools.ietf.org/wg/idnabis/agenda" target="_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/wg/idnabis/agenda</a></div><div><br></div> <div>v</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div><div>On Jul 26, 2009, at 11:50 PM, Mark Davis ⌛ wrote:</div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div></div><div>I couldn't be physically present in Stockholm. I have a couple of questions:<br> <br>It appears that the first session is at 4:00am PT:<br><br><div style="margin-left: 40px;">1300-1500 Afternoon Session I - Room 307 APP idnabis Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (Revised) WG<br> </div><br>Is this the right stream?<br><br><div style="margin-left: 40px;"><a href="http://feed.verilan.com/ietf/stream05.m3u" target="_blank">http://feed.verilan.com/ietf/stream05.m3u</a><br></div><br>And is this the right jabber account?<br> <br><div style="margin-left: 40px;"><a href="mailto:idnabis@jabber.ietf.org" target="_blank">idnabis@jabber.ietf.org</a><br></div><br><br clear="all">Mark<br></div></div><div> _______________________________________________<br> Idna-update mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Idna-update@alvestrand.no" target="_blank">Idna-update@alvestrand.no</a><br><a href="http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/idna-update" target="_blank">http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/idna-update</a><br> </div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br> Idna-update mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Idna-update@alvestrand.no" target="_blank">Idna-update@alvestrand.no</a><br> <a href="http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/idna-update" target="_blank">http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/idna-update</a><br> <br></blockquote></div><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>