I sent a message indicating some problems back in November. In March I followed up with the message below. I went back to see why Patrik hadn't responded, and it looked like he was waiting for someone else to look at what he did and didn't cover in his revision.<br>
<br>Well, it turns out that none of the recommended changes were incorporated. While it is certainly possible that all of them were problematic, there was no response on why they were rejected. I'm guessing that in the end, they were just overlooked. I understand that Harald disagrees with some of them; we should discuss the issues.<br>
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Patrik, could you now, please, look over <a href="http://www.alvestrand.no/pipermail/idna-update/2008-November/003021.html" target="_blank">http://www.alvestrand.no/pipermail/idna-update/2008-November/003021.html</a>, and respond for each item as to either<br>
<ol><li>you think the change should be made, or</li><li>you think it shouldn't and why not.</li></ol>The context rules are still extremely rough-draft, and have gotten no review from this group. Yet they form a fundamental part of validity, and need to have the same level of review as the rest. If we're going to every ship this thing, we need to wrap up all the loose ends, and this is one of them.<br>
<br>Mark<br><br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 6.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Mark Davis wrote:<br>
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You didn't look back far enough, for example: <a href="http://www.alvestrand.no/pipermail/idna-update/2008-November/003021.html" target="_blank">http://www.alvestrand.no/pipermail/idna-update/2008-November/003021.html</a><br>
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To that message I got no response from you, agreement or disagreement.
As I said in the meeting, I've also heard from others that they were
waiting on some of the major issues to settle before speaking up on the
<span class="il">context</span> issues. I think we made enough progress in the meeting that now is probably the time for that.<br>
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Note that I disagree with several of the points from that note (not the
need to be precise, but I like functions like Previous() much better
than pseudovariables like P, and I think the initial ruleset needs to
stay in the document after publication).</blockquote>
<div style="margin-left: 40px;"><br>What I'd really like to see is a formulation that was even closer to what people would actually used <br></div><div style="margin-left: 40px;" class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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I missed replying to your comments in November, but see that the
relevant sections were revised in December, so my comments would
probably have been moot anyway.</blockquote></div><div style="margin-left: 40px;"><br>I
didn't get any reply from Patrik, so I don't know what changes he made,
whether any were in response to my document, which suggestions he
incorporated, which he didn't; and any reasoning connected with any of
those.<br><br></div><br clear="all">Mark<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/3/25 Patrik Fältström <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:patrik@frobbit.se">patrik@frobbit.se</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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On 25 mar 2009, at 12.59, Mark Davis wrote:<br>
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I didn't get any reply from Patrik, so I don't know what changes he made,<br>
whether any were in response to my document, which suggestions he<br>
incorporated, which he didn't; and any reasoning connected with any of<br>
those.<br>
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The changes I did between 04 and 05 can be viewed here:<br>
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<a href="http://tinyurl.com/dbgzm6" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/dbgzm6</a><br>
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But as I do not remember whether I looked at your email or not, I can not say what parts I explicitly changed and not.<br><font color="#888888">
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Patrik<br>
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