<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Rémy Renardin</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:renardinr@gmail.com">renardinr@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: 2009/4/18<br>Subject: Re: What should I do?<br>To: Nicolas Krebs <<a href="mailto:nicolas1.krebs3@netcourrier.com">nicolas1.krebs3@netcourrier.com</a>><br><br><br>Dear Nicolas,<br>I suppose that for having spotted this text you are somebody serious. I am afraid however you have not worked enough on the matter.<br>
<br>You will note that if you enter ML-DNS in Google you obtain 152000 answers and 3100 with "ML-DNS". <br>
<br>Actually the notion includes :<br><br>1) a TMed word by Bill Semich for .NU (<a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/225/" target="_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/225/</a>). <br>and a product shipped for years described in <a href="http://www.worldnames.net/mldns/" target="_blank">http://www.worldnames.net/mldns/</a><br>
<br>2) a common expectation documented in mails on this mailing list. The definition of reference we use (<a href="http://iucg.org/wiki/ML-DNS" target="_blank">http://iucg.org/wiki/ML-DNS</a>) is "ML-DNS means a multilingistic support of the Internet name space. It
should strive to insure everyone, every script and every language the
same QoS as the legacy DNS to English ASCII US users."<br><br>3) there is the exploration engaged after Vint said IDNA was not a candidate for (2). It is based upon previous france@large experimentation and has been initated as <a href="http://ml-dns.org" target="_blank">http://ml-dns.org</a> you quote. The work now is concentrating with the MLTF effort we engaged 2 years ago and various other convergence projects and initiatives.<br>
<br>We feel that very odd that having in mind :<br>- to protect the DNS (what MLDNS (tm) may not do, what some IDNA visions do not do)<br>- the network stability and to strictly conform to IDNA2008 unless it violates the Unicode internationalization layers<br>
- because it would violate also the multilingualization layer we understand as the layer above internationalization<br>- to respect the Charter and RFC 1958 principle - including end to end<br>and supporting the latest evolution of the thinking of this WG, we are spotted as the bad guys. It is like some of us wanted that IDNA2008 is never published unless it conforms to their most constraining vision. <br>
<br>Rémy Renardin<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/4/18 Nicolas Krebs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicolas1.krebs3@netcourrier.com" target="_blank">nicolas1.krebs3@netcourrier.com</a>></span><div><div></div>
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Xavier Legoff:<br>
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> >or that the working group should be pursuing Jefsey Morfin's Multilingual<br>
> DNS ideas<br>
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</div><div>> There are no “Jefsey Morfin's Multilingual DNS ideas”. “Multilingual DNS”<br>
> does not make sense in most of the documented understandings of the “DNS”<br>
> ambivalent term.<br>
><br>
</div>> In ML-DNS (<a href="http://ml-dns.org" target="_blank">http://ml-dns.org</a>) "ML" stand <<a href="http://ml-dns.org/" target="_blank">http://ml-dns.org/</a>>s for<br>
> <<a href="http://ml-dns.org/" target="_blank">http://ml-dns.org/</a>>*multi-ledger* (server associated registries on a<br>
<div>> lingual or application basis), mark-up language for domain names, and<br>
> multilateral DNS usage in a distributed environment.<br>
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</div>Nice try.<br>
<a href="http://ml-dns.org/" target="_blank">http://ml-dns.org/</a> link <a href="http://ml-dns.org/appel.htm" target="_blank">http://ml-dns.org/appel.htm</a> which link<br>
<a href="http://www.ietf.org/IESG/APPEALS/appeal-morfin-ml-dns.txt" target="_blank">http://www.ietf.org/IESG/APPEALS/appeal-morfin-ml-dns.txt</a> .<br>
Extract: "multilingual version or usage of the DNS (named here ML-DNS)"<br>
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