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mark,<div><br></div><div>appreciate the precision!</div><div><br></div><div>v</div><div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div>NOTE NEW BUSINESS ADDRESS AND PHONE</div><div>Vint Cerf</div><div>Google</div><div>1818 Library Street, Suite 400</div><div>Reston, VA 20190</div><div>202-370-5637</div><div><a href="mailto:vint@google.com">vint@google.com</a></div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span></span> </div><br><div><div>On Dec 7, 2008, at 9:14 PM, Mark Davis wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Just to make sure we are all on the same page, the digits in question are the following. <div><br></div><div><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">(European) </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><a href="http://demo.icu-project.org/icu-bin/ubrowse?ch=0030#here" style="color: rgb(92, 129, 167); "><small><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">U+0030 DIGIT ZERO...</span></small></a></span></div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; "><table border="1" cellspacing="0" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: black; border-right-color: black; border-bottom-color: black; border-left-color: black; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "> <tbody><tr><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> 0 </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> 1 </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> 2 </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> 3 </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> 4 </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> 5 </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> 6 </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> 7 </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> 8 </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> 9 </td></tr></tbody></table></span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Arabic-Indic digits: </span><a href="http://demo.icu-project.org/icu-bin/ubrowse?ch=0660#here" style="color: rgb(92, 129, 167); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">U+0660 ARABIC-INDIC DIGIT ZERO...</span></a></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br> </span></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px; "><table border="1" cellspacing="0" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: black; border-right-color: black; border-bottom-color: black; border-left-color: black; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "> <tbody><tr><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ٠ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ١ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ٢ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ٣ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ٤ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ٥ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ٦ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ٧ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ٨ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ٩ </td></tr></tbody></table></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Extended Arabic-Indic digits: </span><a href="http://demo.icu-project.org/icu-bin/ubrowse?ch=06F0#here" style="color: rgb(92, 129, 167); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">U+06F0 EXTENDED ARABIC-INDIC DIGIT ZERO...</span></a></span></span></div> <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; "><table border="1" cellspacing="0" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: black; border-right-color: black; border-bottom-color: black; border-left-color: black; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "> <tbody><tr><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ۰ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ۱ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ۲ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ۳ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ۴ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ۵ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ۶ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ۷ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ۸ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ۹ </td></tr></tbody></table></span></span></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Various Indic digits: </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><a href="http://demo.icu-project.org/icu-bin/ubrowse?k1=0966#here" style="color: rgb(92, 129, 167); "><small><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">U+0966 DEVANAGARI DIGIT ZERO...</span></small></a></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"> (Devanagari, Gujarati, Tamil, ...)<br> </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px; "><table border="1" cellspacing="0" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: black; border-right-color: black; border-bottom-color: black; border-left-color: black; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "> <tbody><tr><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ० </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> १ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> २ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ३ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ४ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ५ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ६ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ७ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ८ </td><td style="font-size: 100%; text-align: center; border-top-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-style: solid; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-top-color: blue; border-right-color: blue; border-bottom-color: blue; border-left-color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 1px; padding-right: 1px; padding-bottom: 1px; padding-left: 1px; "> ९ </td></tr></tbody></table></span></div><div><br></div>Unfortunately, Europeans often refer to European digits as "Arabic" (indicating their source), and Arabs often refer to Arabic digits as "Indic" (indicating their source). For that reason, the Unicode names for the Arabic digits use "Arabic-Indic" instead of simply "Arabic". Importantly, the Arabic digits should not be confused with true Indic digits, like those for Devanagari, etc. So use of the above Unicode names is recommended to avoid confusion.<div> <div><br></div></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">So I believe what was meant was the following. (I added one more possible option, #4, and added examples, pairing 'a' with European 9, 'b' with Arabic-Indic 9, and 'c' with Extended Arabic-Indic 9. Thus "b<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; ">٩" below is using the <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><small><a href="http://demo.icu-project.org/icu-bin/ubrowse?k1=0669#here" style="color: rgb(92, 129, 167); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">U+0669 ARABIC-INDIC DIGIT NINE</span></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; "> while "</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">c</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">۹" is using the </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "><small><a href="http://demo.icu-project.org/icu-bin/ubrowse?k1=06F9#here" style="color: rgb(92, 129, 167); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">U+06F9 EXTENDED ARABIC-INDIC DIGIT NINE</span></a><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">.)</span></small></span></span></span></small></span></span></span></span></div> <div><ol><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">forbid at protocol level using context rules the mixing of Arabic-Indic, Extended-Arabic-Indic and European digits in any combination.</span></span></li> <ul><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">forbid {a9b</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">٩, </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">a9c</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">۹, </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">b</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">٩</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">c</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">۹}</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br> </span></span></li></ul><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">forbid at protocol level using context rules the mixing of Arabic-Indic with European and separately forbid mixing Extended-Arabic-Indic with European (but allow mixing Arabic-Indic and Extended-Arabic-Indic).<br> </span></span></li><ul><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">forbid {a9b</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">٩, </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">a9c</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">۹</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">}, but allow {</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">b</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">٩</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">c</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">۹}</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><br> </span></span></li></ul><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">do not forbid use of digits at protocol level but use registry filters implemented by each registry.</span></span></li> <li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">forbid at protocol level using context rules the mixing of Arabic-Indic with Extended-Arabic-Indic (but allow the mixing of either one alone with European digits).<br> </span></span></li><ul><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">forbid </span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">{</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">b</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">٩</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">c</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">۹}, but allow </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">{a9b</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">٩, </span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">a9c</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">۹</span></span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">}</span></span></span></li> </ul></ol><div>Mark<br></div></div><div> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 17:14, Vint Cerf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vint@google.com" target="_blank">vint@google.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div style="word-wrap:break-word"> Alireza,<div><br></div><div>an update would be called for if we can figure out what consensus there is on the matter of the eastern-indic and western-indic numbers and their relationship to the western/european numbers. </div> <div><br></div><div>My impression is that there are some participants who would find it preferable to make all restrictions on the mixing the these number codes a matter for registry decision. One hazard with this is that the issue arises at every level in the DNS hierarchy and operators (registries) of lower level zone files may be less likely to enforce constraints than, e.g., second level registries. </div> <div><br></div><div>We can:</div><div><br></div><div>1. forbid at protocol level the mixing of Eastern -Indic, Western-Indic and European digits in any combination.</div><div><br></div><div>the benefit of this rather strong rule is that it deals the the apparent potential hazard that all input digits are mapped into European digits by some widely uses operating system software and thus will be information lossy.</div> <div><br></div><div>OR</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>2. forbid at protocol level the mixing of Eastern-Indic with European and separately forbid mixing European with Western-Indic using context rules.</div><div> <br></div><div>OR</div><div><br></div><div>3. Do not forbid use of digits at protocol level but use registry filters implemented by each registry. </div><div><br></div><div>Are there additional useful options?</div><div> <br> </div><div><br></div><div><div><br><div> <span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:auto;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div> <div>NOTE NEW BUSINESS ADDRESS AND PHONE</div><div>Vint Cerf</div><div>Google</div><div>1818 Library Street, Suite 400</div><div>Reston, VA 20190</div><div>202-370-5637</div><div><a href="mailto:vint@google.com" target="_blank">vint@google.com</a></div> <div><br></div></div></span><br></span><br></span></span></span> </div><br></div><div><div></div><div><div><div>On Dec 7, 2008, at 8:01 PM, Alireza Saleh wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> Vint, Harald,</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"><br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"><br> </div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">Besides, I would like to know if there will be any updates regarding the -BIDI ?</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"> <br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"><br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">Alireza</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"> <br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"><br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">Vint Cerf wrote:</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"> <br></div> <blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">John,</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"> <br> </div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">many thanks for your patience and persistence. I hope this version can bring us to consensus.</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"> <br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">vint</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"><br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"> <br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">NOTE NEW BUSINESS ADDRESS AND PHONE</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">Vint Cerf</div> <div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">Google</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">1818 Library Street, Suite 400</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> Reston, VA 20190</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">202-370-5637</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><a href="mailto:vint@google.com" target="_blank">vint@google.com</a> <<a href="mailto:vint@google.com" target="_blank">mailto:vint@google.com</a>></div> <div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"><br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"><br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"> <br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"><br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">On Dec 7, 2008, at 7:27 PM, John C Klensin wrote:</div> <div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"><br></div> <blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">Hi.</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"> <br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">A new version of Protocol, draft-ietf-idnabis-protocol-08, is in</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> the posting queue.� Versions of Defs (-04) and Rationale (06)</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">will follow soon, but not necessarily today. � I may or may not</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> post separate comments / announcements about these drafts when</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">they appear.</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"> <br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">For each of these documents, if you have raised an issue and not</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> gotten an explicit response to the note in which it was raised,</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">please check to be sure that your comments were reflected</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> somehow and inquire if they were not.� I've tried to be careful,</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">but would not be surprised if one or two notes accidentally fell</div> <div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">through the cracks.</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"><br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> Three general observations:</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"><br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">* Several of the bits of Defs (definitions and surrounding</div> <div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">material) have been reworked and an illustration has been added</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> about the relationships among the various terms.� There are some</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">dependencies in Protocol on those new definitions so, if</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> something in Protocol-08 seems both new and strange, you might</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">want to wait until you've seen Defs-04 before commenting.</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"> <br></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">* These documents do not reflect the recent extensive "digits"</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> discussion. � Definitions and Protocol are not affected by it</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">one way or the other (from a protocol standpoint, the</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> consequences are entirely in Bidi and Tables).� Rationale is</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">affected, but I believe that the opportunity for the WG to</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> comment, and the editor's sanity, are better served by seeing if</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">we can move closer to a base document on which we can agree and</div> <div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">then add that material, rather than trying to add both sets of</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> changes at once. � That implies that, assuming the WG can reach</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px">some sort of rough consensus, you can expect to see Rationale-07</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"> before the end of the calendar year.</div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;min-height:14px"><br></div><div 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