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Most of the communications coming from the arabic community that I have seen appear to favor a protocol-level restriction on mixing of arabic, eastern-ariabic and western digit forms.<div><br></div><div>vint</div><div><br></div><div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div>NOTE NEW BUSINESS ADDRESS AND PHONE</div><div>Vint Cerf</div><div>Google</div><div>1818 Library Street, Suite 400</div><div>Reston, VA 20190</div><div>202-370-5637</div><div><a href="mailto:vint@google.com">vint@google.com</a></div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span></span> </div><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"Abdulaziz Al-Zoman" <<a href="mailto:azoman@citc.gov.sa">azoman@citc.gov.sa</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">November 24, 2008 4:18:41 PM EST</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"Sarmad Hussain" <<a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@nu.edu.pk">sarmad.hussain@nu.edu.pk</a>>, "Vint Cerf" <<a href="mailto:vint@google.com">vint@google.com</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Cc: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"Eric Brunner-Williams" <<a href="mailto:ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net">ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net</a>>, "Raed Al-Fayez" <<a href="mailto:rfayez@citc.gov.sa">rfayez@citc.gov.sa</a>>, "Alireza Saleh" <<a href="mailto:saleh@nic.ir">saleh@nic.ir</a>>, <<a href="mailto:azmah@mynic.net.my">azmah@mynic.net.my</a>>, "Baher Esmat" <<a href="mailto:baher.esmat@icann.org">baher.esmat@icann.org</a>>, <<a href="mailto:gvictor@tra.gov.eg">gvictor@tra.gov.eg</a>>, "Hania Dimassi" <<a href="mailto:dimassi@un.org">dimassi@un.org</a>>, <<a href="mailto:oueichek@aloola.sy">oueichek@aloola.sy</a>>, "Kawa Baha" <<a href="mailto:bahak@nsc.gov.af">bahak@nsc.gov.af</a>>, "Manal Ismail" <<a href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg">manal@tra.gov.eg</a>>, "Rajesh Aggarwal" <<a href="mailto:rajesh@nixi.in">rajesh@nixi.in</a>>, <<a href="mailto:shahshah@irnic.ir">shahshah@irnic.ir</a>>, <<a href="mailto:yeo@mynic.net.my">yeo@mynic.net.my</a>>, <<a href="mailto:idna-arabicscript@lists.irnic.ir">idna-arabicscript@lists.irnic.ir</a>>, "Abdulaziz Al-Zoman" <<a href="mailto:azoman@citc.gov.sa">azoman@citc.gov.sa</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>RE: [Idna-arabicscript] RE: [Fwd: Re: Follow-up to Monday's discussion of digits]</b></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> <div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">I hope I’m not too late … as well as not wasting your time and bandwidth with a very basic information. <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">Please note that you can see the attached pdf file if you cannot read the rest of the email message intelligently.<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><font size="3" color="blue" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">==================================================================<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><b><font size="4" color="maroon" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:15.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:maroon;font-weight:bold">Digits in Arabic Language/Script<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="3" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;font-weight:bold"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="3" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;font-weight:bold">Digits Used in our region:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Users who use an Arabic script to write Arabic-based languages (e.g., Arabic, Urdu, Persian …) are using one or more set of digits in their normal writing without mixing them together in writing numbers. These set are (according to Unicode terminologies):<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:18.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">1.European digits U+0030 .. U+0039 (0123456789)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:18.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">2.Arabic-Indic digits U+0660 .. U0669 (</span></font><span dir="RTL"></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><span dir="RTL"></span>٠١٢٣٤٥٦٧٨٩</span></font><span dir="LTR"></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black"><span dir="LTR"></span>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:18.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">3.Eastern Arabic-Indic digits U+06F0 .. U+06F9 (</span></font><span dir="RTL"></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span lang="FA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><span dir="RTL"></span>۰۱۲۳۴۵۶۷۸۹</span></font><span dir="LTR"></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black"><span dir="LTR"></span>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Even in one language community such as the Arabic speaking community, users are using different digits. For example, eastern Arab region (e.g., <st1:country-region w:st="on">Egypt</st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Syria</st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Sudan</st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Iraq</st1:country-region>, all GCC countries, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:country-region>, <st1:city w:st="on">Palestine</st1:city>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Jordan</st1:country-region>, … ) are mainly using Arabic-Indic digits while the western Arab region (e.g., <st1:country-region w:st="on">Libya</st1:country-region>, <st1:city w:st="on">Tunis</st1:city>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Algeria</st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Morocco</st1:country-region>, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Mauritania</st1:country-region></st1:place>, …) mainly using European digits. But never mixing them together while writing numbers. For example, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:126.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">1- conference2009 </span></font><font size="2" color="green" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:green">Acceptable</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">: Pure European digits<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:126.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">2- conference</span></font><span dir="RTL"></span><font size="2" color="black"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><span dir="RTL"></span>٢٠٠٩</span></font><span dir="LTR"></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><span dir="LTR"></span> </span></font><font size="2" color="green" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:green">Acceptable</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">: Pure Arabic-Indic digits<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:126.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">3- conference</span></font><span dir="RTL"></span><font size="2" color="black"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><span dir="RTL"></span>۲۰۰۹</span></font><span dir="LTR"></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><span dir="LTR"></span> </span></font><font size="2" color="green" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:green">Acceptable</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">: Pure Eastern Arabic-Indic digits<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:126.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">4- conference</span></font><span dir="RTL"></span><font size="2" color="black"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><span dir="RTL"></span>٢٠٠</span></font><span dir="LTR"></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><span dir="LTR"></span>9 </span></font><font size="2" color="red" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:red">Not-Acceptable</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">: Mix between European digits & Arabic-Indic digits<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:126.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">5- conference2</span></font><span dir="RTL"></span><font size="2" color="black"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><span dir="RTL"></span>٠٠٩</span></font><span dir="LTR"></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><span dir="LTR"></span> </span></font><font size="2" color="red" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:red">Not-Acceptable</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">: Mix between European digits & Arabic-Indic digits<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:126.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">6- conference</span></font><span dir="RTL"></span><font size="2" color="black"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><span dir="RTL"></span>٢٠٠۹</span></font><span dir="LTR"></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><span dir="LTR"></span> </span></font><font size="2" color="red" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:red">Not-Acceptable</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">: Mix between Arabic-Indic digits & Eastern Arabic-Indic digits<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:126.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">7- conference2</span></font><span dir="RTL"></span><font size="2" color="black"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><span dir="RTL"></span>۰۰۹</span></font><span dir="LTR"></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span lang="AR-SA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black"><span dir="LTR"></span> </span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"> </span></font><font size="2" color="red" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:red">Not-Acceptable</span></font><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">: Mix between European digits & Eastern Arabic-Indic digits<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:126.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">The Arab Working Group on Arabic Domain Names (AWG-ADN) established by The League of Arab States in 2003 has studied the issue of digits extensively and reached the following recommendations (It was done according to the IDNA 2003):<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><i><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black; font-style:italic">“Both sets may be supported in the user interface but both must be folded to one set [European] at the preparation of internationalized strings (e.g., "stringprep") phase; i.e. storage of numerals in the zone file is done in ASCII format.” <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">So we hope this recommendation be honored in the new protocol IDNA 200x, i.e., we need a protocol-level solution to the digit problem.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="3" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;font-weight:bold">Number Substitutions in M$ Operating Systems<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol; color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></font></span></span></font><span dir="LTR"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">One important issue with respect to digits is how Microsoft operating systems (Windows XP, 2000, 2003, <st1:place w:st="on">Vista</st1:place>, …) treat digits. This means that almost all MS OSs (XP, 2000, <st1:place w:st="on">Vista</st1:place>, 2003) are storing digits in a unified codes (European digits) and displaying them in the local language setup. According to Microsoft:<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><i><font size="2" color="blue" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:blue; font-style:italic">“Historically, Windows has supported number substitution by allowing the representation of different cultural shapes for the same digits while keeping the internal storage of these digits unified among different locales, for example numbers are stored in their well known hexadecimal values, 0x40, 0x41 [European digits], but displayed according to the selected language.<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><i><font size="2" color="blue" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:blue; font-style:italic">This has allowed applications to process numerical values without the need to convert them from one language to another, for example a user can open an Microsoft Excel spreadsheet in a localized Arabic Windows and see the numbers shaped in Arabic, but open it in a European version of Windows and see European representation of the same numbers. This is also necessary for other symbols such as comma separators and percentage symbol because they usually accompany numbers in the same document.”</span></font></i><i><font size="1" color="blue" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Verdana; color:blue;font-style:italic"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><font size="1" color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">Source: <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa350685(VS.85).aspx?PHPSESSID=o1fb21liejulfgrptbmi9dec92#NumberSubstitution">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa350685(VS.85).aspx?PHPSESSID=o1fb21liejulfgrptbmi9dec92#NumberSubstitution</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-left:36.0pt;line-height:140%;vertical-align:top"><font size="1" color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;line-height:140%; font-family:Verdana;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol; color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></font></span></span></font><span dir="LTR"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">This problem is not for a specific version of MS OS that will be expired but a feature of the operating system behavior that is traditionally implemented by MS in their <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">OSs</st1:city></st1:place> even the new ones. <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol; color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></font></span></span></font><span dir="LTR"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">This problem is not for the Saudi Community only but all the Arab region which uses MS OSs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol; color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></font></span></span></font><span dir="LTR"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">Please see Appendix A which shows this problem using Google search. One search is done by typing Pure Arabic-Indic digits while the other is searching by typing Pure European digits but displayed as Arabic-Indic digits.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="msolistparagraph" style="margin-left:18.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol; color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></font></span></span></font><span dir="LTR"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">Please note that, unfortunately, MS operating systems (XP, 2000, vista …) are the most widely used OS in our region. Here are some statistics globally and in our region:<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><a href="http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp" title="blocked::http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp"><font color="black"><span style="color:black">http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp</span></font></a></span></font><font size="2" color="black"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_desktop_operating_systems" title="blocked::http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_desktop_operating_systems"><font color="black"><span style="color:black">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_desktop_operating_systems</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><a href="http://www.edunet.tn/webstat/ar/operating_system.htm" title="blocked::http://www.edunet.tn/webstat/ar/operating_system.htm"><font color="black"><span style="color:black">http://www.edunet.tn/webstat/ar/operating_system.htm</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><a href="http://www.jamilhamdaoui.net/plugins/log/stats.php?4" title="blocked::http://www.jamilhamdaoui.net/plugins/log/stats.php?4"><font color="black"><span style="color:black">http://www.jamilhamdaoui.net/plugins/log/stats.php?4</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><a href="http://www.citc.gov.sa/NR/rdonlyres/2BFE8644-A19C-4CAD-91F8-62BC5ACDC787/0/Internet_Usage_Study_in_KSAIndividualEN.pdf">http://www.citc.gov.sa/NR/rdonlyres/2BFE8644-A19C-4CAD-91F8-62BC5ACDC787/0/Internet_Usage_Study_in_KSAIndividualEN.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="3" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;font-weight:bold">Digits in Domain Names<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol; color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></font></span></span></font><span dir="LTR"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">Please note that our discussions with respect the usage of digits are in the scope of domain names, where some restrictions on the size of the character set and the usage is “commonly” imposed for many reasons including security and stability of the domain name system.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol; color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></font></span></span></font><span dir="LTR"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">The three sets of digits mean the same (zero to nine) despite their differences in shape.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol; color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></font></span></span></font><span dir="LTR"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">With respect to domain names, mixing digit sets (i.e. European and Arabic-Indic) IS NOT applicable and not needed, and hence should be disallowed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Symbol; color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></font></span></span></font><span dir="LTR"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black">Users type digits without knowing the internal coding used.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <b><font size="3" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Calibri;color:black;font-weight:bold"><br clear="all" style="page-break-before:always"> </span></font></b><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="3" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;font-weight:bold">Appendix A : Google search:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p><p class="msolistparagraph" style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm; margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-18.0pt; mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1-<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></font></span></span></font><span dir="LTR"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:Calibri;color:black">searching for “</span></font></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:Arial;color:black">مؤتمر 2009</span></font><span dir="LTR"></span><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri; color:black"><span dir="LTR"></span>” (Using Pure European digits but displayed as Arabic-Indic digits) found 992,000 results.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="msolistparagraph"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="msolistparagraph"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black"></span></font></p></div></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></blockquote></div></div></body></html>