<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span></span> </div><br><div><div>On Oct 6, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Vint Cerf wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div>DUE DATE: OCTOBER 10, 2008 (ET)</div><div><br></div><div>Place your reply here: YES</div><div><br></div><div>COMMENTS:</div><div><br></div><div>A YES response means that you agree with all of topics 4 and 5.</div><div><br></div><div>Procedure:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>There are several decisions that the working group will need to make to confirm consensus. I will send a series of proposals over the next two weeks requesting YES or NO positions on each within a 4 day window. If NO is the response, a reason for that position needs to be stated. If there is a clear consensus based on responses or in the absence ofa consensus against each proposal, it will be assumed that the proposal is acceptable to the Working Group.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Parenthesized symbols (e.g., "(R.1)") after the items are references to the issues lists where additional explanations can be found, as sent by John Klensin as body parts "idnabis-protocol-issues-rev3" and "idnabis-rationale-issues-03" on a message titled 'Issues lists and the "preprocessing" topic' to the working group on 18 August (<a href="http://www.alvestrand.no/pipermail/idna-update/2008-August/002537.html">http://www.alvestrand.no/pipermail/idna-update/2008-August/002537.html</a>)</div><div><br></div><div>This group needs to get its documents out; it is behind its original schedule. It should be noted that the IDN ccTLD and gTLD selection initiatives at ICANN have already begun so that delay may weaken the IETF's ability to assist in a rational deployment of IDNA. </div><div><br></div><div>(4) Textual issues believed settled</div><div><br></div><div>(4.a) The explanation of mappings in Rationale-02 and later is</div><div>satisfactory. (R.24)</div><div><br></div><div>(4.b) The explanation of the symbol prohibition in Rationale-02</div><div>and later is satisfactory. (R.25)</div><div><br></div><div>(4.c) The explanation of requirements on registries, the role</div><div>of registration policy, and their scope in Rationale-02 and</div><div>Protocol-05 is satisfactory (R.9, R.27, P.6).</div><div><br></div><div>(4.d) The description of the Bidi changes between IDNA2003 and</div><div>IDNA2008 in Rationale-02 is satisfactory. (R.15)</div><div><br></div><div>(4.e) The description of detecting domain names in text and how</div><div>it interacts with the idea of alternate label separator</div><div>("dotoid") characters is adequate in Rationale-02 (R.23)</div><div><br></div><div>(4.f) The description of the implications of mapping changes</div><div>between IDNA2003 and IDNA2008 is satisfactory in Rationale-02</div><div>(R.28)</div><div><br></div><div>(4.g) The discussion of user agent security issues should be</div><div>retained in Section 6.3 of Rationale. (R.6, R.19)</div><div><br></div><div>(4.h) The description of why we are using Unicode is</div><div>satisfactory in Rationale-02. (R.13)</div><div><br></div><div>(4.i) With the new note warning that, while the lookup and</div><div>registration steps in Protocol are similar, they are not</div><div>identical, the structure of the description of those steps is</div><div>satisfactory. (P.10, P.15)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>(4.j) The text about A-label dislay that now appears in Rationale-02</div><div>is satisfactory. (R.20)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>(5) IANA Considerations and table changes.</div><div><br></div><div>(5.a) The IANA considerations section setting up the Contextual</div><div>Rule registry (in Tables, taken from Protocol at -03) is</div><div>satisfactory. (R.8)</div><div><br></div><div>(5.b) We are agreed that changes to the table-defining rules,</div><div>and especially to lists of contextual rules and exception</div><div>characters, require IETF consensus and publication of a new</div><div>RFC. (R.12)</div><div><br></div><div>(5.c) The IANA registry for contextual rules should be</div><div>maintained with a "last updated" date. (P.16)</div><div><br></div><div>(5.d) The contextual rules themselves should be specified and</div><div>maintained as procedural steps, as discussed in Dublin. (P.2,</div><div>P.3)</div><div><br></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><div>NOTE NEW BUSINESS ADDRESS AND PHONE</div><div>Vint Cerf</div><div>Google</div><div>1818 Library Street, Suite 400</div><div>Reston, VA 20190</div><div>202-370-5637</div><div><a href="mailto:vint@google.com">vint@google.com</a></div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span></span> </div><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Idna-update mailing list</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:Idna-update@alvestrand.no">Idna-update@alvestrand.no</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/idna-update">http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/idna-update</a></div> </blockquote></div><br></body></html>