<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><!--StartFragment--> <div class="MsoNormal"><br></div> <div class="MsoNormal"> </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Ladies and Gentlemen of the IDNAbis Working Group,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">The IETF meeting in Dublin is fast approaching. I have requested two sessions of two hours each, hoping that we may in fact not need that much time. The room is supposed to hold as many as 100 attendees although I hope there will be fewer than that, possibly helping us reach conclusions more quickly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">The Working Group is currently on a vector to produce output in the form of four documents. These documents are as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">1. draft-ietf-idnabis-rationale-00.txt  (editor: John Klensin)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">2. draft-ietf-idnabis-protocol-01.txt (editor: John Klensin)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">3. draft-ietf-idnabis-bidi-01.txt (editor: Harald Alvestrand)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">4. draft-ietf-idnabis-tables-01.txt (editor: Patrik Fältström)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">If there is interest in an alternative to this format, it would be helpful for WG members to make specific proposals for consideration. In the absence of a consensus for change, the work will likely emerge through the documents cited above. Setting aside the general matter of document format, we also need to identify and specific issues with the present contents of each document.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">WG ACTION REQUEST:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none; text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">It would be very helpful if WG members would send concise issues (especially proposed changes to documents) to each of the document editors. I ask the editors to compile these issues and organize them in a form that can be discussed and hopefully resolved during the Dublin IDNAbis WG meeting. Simple editorial change proposals received by July 14 may possibly be reflected in revised documents in time for the Dublin meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:48.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace: none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:48.0pt;text-indent:-24.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Proposed agenda for the two IETF meetings<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:48.0pt;text-indent:-12.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">FIRST SESSION (July 28, 2008 1520-1720, RATHCOOLE ROOM)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:96.0pt;text-indent:-24.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">a.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">   </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Outline of outstanding issues identified in the mailing list (or other communications) – action: editors (and chair)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:96.0pt;text-indent:-24.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"><span style="mso-tab-count:1">        </span><span style="mso-tab-count:1">    </span>(i) Document structure (current structure? Other?)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:96.0pt;text-indent:-24.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"><span style="mso-tab-count:1">        </span><span style="mso-tab-count:1">    </span>(ii) Specific issues with each current document<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:96.0pt;text-indent:-24.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">b. Discussion of issues and resolution where possible<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"><span style="mso-tab-count:1">            </span>SECOND SESSION (July 29, 2008, 1520-1720, RATHCOOLE ROOM)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:96.0pt;text-indent:-24.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">a. Further issue discussion and resolution if incomplete from first session.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:96.0pt;text-indent:-24.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">b.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">   </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Prepare post-IETF action lists (mostly issue resolution and confirmation on the mailing list)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:96.0pt;text-indent:-24.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">c.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">   </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:ArialMT">Proposed t</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">imeline for completion of the work (discussion)       <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-2.0in;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">                                              </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">i.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">     </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Document revision based on meeting results Aug 8<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-2.0in;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">                                             </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">ii.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">     </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Minutes of the meeting Aug 8<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-2.0in;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">                                           </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">iii.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">     </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Summary of conclusions of the meeting Aug 8<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-2.0in;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">                                           </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">iv.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">     </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Deadline for comments September 5<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-2.0in;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">                                            </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">v.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">     </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Release of Final IDNAbis IDs September 19<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-2.0in;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">                                           </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">vi.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">     </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">WG Last Call on IDNAbis IDs September 19<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-2.0in;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">                                         </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">vii.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">     </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Deadline for IDNAbis WG Last Call Oct 3<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-2.0in;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">                                        </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">viii.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">     </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Editorial Conference Call Oct 6 0700-1000 Cerf, Klensin, Fältström, Karp, Alvestrand)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:2.0in;text-indent:-2.0in;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">                                           </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">ix.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">     </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Possible outcomes<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:240.0pt;text-indent:-24.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">a.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">   </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Send documents to AD<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:240.0pt;text-indent:-24.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">b.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">   </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Make editorial changes and send to WG and AD (for non-substantive changes)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt; margin-left:240.0pt;text-indent:-24.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align: none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">c.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT">    </span><span style="fon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