<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Frank Ellermann <<a href="mailto:hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com">hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">John C Klensin wrote:<br>
<br>
> To say this a little differently, such changes in Unicode are<br>
> not made in secret, but involve opportunities for public<br>
> discussion. It is reasonable to assume that the negative<br>
> effects on IDNs of making such changes would be part of the<br>
> relevant discussions.<br>
<br>
</div>I'm far from sure how reasonable that is: The introduction of<br>
u+1E9E was discussed in public, but decided by a third party<br>
not interested in its effects on the Internet, let alone IDN.</blockquote><div><br>For those who (perhaps unlike Frank) have not memorized the code points of all characters, this is the <b>CAPITAL SHARP S.</b><br><br>While of course Unicode can't be limited to just characters that work in IDN, this particular change -- and the ramifications for security and compatibility -- it was discussed at great length over the course of many meetings. It was encoded largely at the request of the German national body.<br>
<br>Moreover, there is little issue that the form occurs in documents, nor that it is not the preferred capitalization.<br><br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">The Unicode list is not really public, e.g., it was removed<br>
from Gmane.org later, and it is not indexed by search engines.<br>
This is neither relevant nor public for practical purposes:</blockquote><div><br>I'll ask our administrator, but you can certainly search for material that is in the Unicode archives. Try:<br><br><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aunicode.org+%22capital+sharp+s%22">http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aunicode.org+%22capital+sharp+s%22</a><br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
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Disallow: /cgi-bin/ in <<a href="http://www.unicode.org/robots.txt" target="_blank">http://www.unicode.org/robots.txt</a>><br>
is about the Web interface to the Unicode list archive among<br>
other things.<br>
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Frank<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Mark