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Sarmad,<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I saw only Urdu and Nepali in the wiki so assume others are still to follow?</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>1. are the urdu suggestions for inclusion in DNS consistent with Patrik's properties-based inclusion algorithm plus contextual exceptions? If not, we will need to figure out how to achieve consistency.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>2. I assume that "translations" are intended to be local and that their use would result in normalized ASCII outputs for each of the referenced domain names currently in the list for ccTLDs and gTLDs when the localizations are externalized - like the use of Fully Qualified Domain Names in email systems that allow abbreviated domain names internally.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>This form of localization gives rise to some serious confusion if any of the listed translations become valid internationalized ccTLDs or gTLDs.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>what is the general thinking about dealing with that potential conflict?</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Vint</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div><div>On Feb 28, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Sarmad Hussain wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place" downloadurl="http://www.5iantlavalamp.com/"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region" downloadurl="http://www.5iantlavalamp.com/"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType" downloadurl="http://www.5iantlavalamp.com/"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName" downloadurl="http://www.5iantlavalamp.com/"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City" downloadurl="http://www.5iamas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"> <o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName" downloadurl="http://www.microsoft.com"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial">Please find the subject document, which includes feedback on IDNAbis process from the following Countries (Languages): <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial">Afghanistan (Pashto), Bangladesh (Bangla), Bhutan (Dzongkha), Cambodia (Khmer), Laos (Lao), Mongolia (Mongolian), Nepal (Nepali) and Pakistan (Urdu) through work done by PAN Localization project<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial">This document is available at <a href="http://panl10n.net/wiki/InternationalizedDomainNames">http://panl10n.net/wiki/InternationalizedDomainNames</a>. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial">Best regards,<br> Sarmad<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoAutoSig"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12.0pt">--------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <table class="MsoTableGrid" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="523" style="width:5.45in;border-collapse:collapse"> <tbody><tr height="13" style="height:9.9pt"> <td width="355" height="13" valign="top" style="width:265.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height:9.9pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig"><st1:personname tabindex="0" style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x" w:st="on"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">Dr. Sarmad Hussain</span></font></i></st1:personname><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style: italic"><o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> </td> <td width="169" height="13" valign="top" style="width:126.45pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; height:9.9pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig" align="right" style="text-align:right"><font size="3" face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span lang="ER" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Nafees Web Naskh"">سرمد حسین</span></font><font face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span style="font-family:"Nafees Web Naskh""><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="355" valign="top" style="width:265.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; 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font-family:"Nafees Web Naskh"">مرکز تحقیقات اردو </span></font><font face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span style="font-family:"Nafees Web Naskh""><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="355" valign="top" style="width:265.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">National <st1:place tabindex="0" style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x" w:st="on"><st1:placetype tabindex="0" style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x" w:st="on">University</st1:placetype> of <st1:placename tabindex="0" style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x" w:st="on">Computer</st1:placename></st1:place> and Emerging Sciences<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> </td> <td width="169" valign="top" style="width:126.45pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig" align="right" style="text-align:right"><font size="3" face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt; 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font-family:"Nafees Web Naskh"">لاہور، پاکستان</span></font><font face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span style="font-family:"Nafees Web Naskh""><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="355" valign="top" style="width:265.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-style:italic"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></i></p> </td> <td width="169" valign="top" style="width:126.45pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig" align="right" style="text-align:right"><font size="3" face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Nafees Web Naskh""><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="355" valign="top" style="width:265.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">Ph: (+9242) 111 128 128 ext. 241<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> </td> <td width="169" valign="top" style="width:126.45pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig" align="right" style="text-align:right"><font size="3" face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span lang="ER" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Nafees Web Naskh"">فون :۲۴۱ ۔ ۱۲۸ ۱۲۸ ۱۱۱ ۔ ۹۲۴۲</span></font><font face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span style="font-family:"Nafees Web Naskh""><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="355" valign="top" style="width:265.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">Fax: (+9242) 516 5232<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> </td> <td width="169" valign="top" style="width:126.45pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig" align="right" style="text-align:right"><font size="3" face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Nafees Web Naskh"">فیکس: </span></font><font face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span lang="ER" dir="RTL" style="font-family:"Nafees Web Naskh"">۵۲۳۲ ۵۱۶ ۔ ۹۲۴۲</span></font><font face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span style="font-family: "Nafees Web Naskh""><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="355" valign="top" style="width:265.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">Email: <a href="mailto:sarmad.hussain@nu.edu.pk">sarmad.hussain@nu.edu.pk</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> </td> <td width="169" valign="top" style="width:126.45pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig" align="right" style="text-align:right"><font size="3" face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Nafees Web Naskh"">ای میل: </span></font><font face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span style="font-family:"Nafees Web Naskh""><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </td> </tr> <tr> <td width="355" valign="top" style="width:265.95pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig"><i><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-style:italic">URL: <a href="http://www.crulp.org">www.crulp.org</a> <a href="http://www.nu.edu.pk">www.nu.edu.pk</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p> </td> <td width="169" valign="top" style="width:126.45pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt"><p class="MsoAutoSig" align="right" style="text-align:right"><font size="3" face="Nafees Web Naskh"><span lang="AR-SA" dir="RTL" style="font-size:12.0pt; 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