Last Call: draft-ietf-idnabis-protocol (Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA): Protocol) to Draft Standard

[John C Klensin]

Vint,

While the announcement doesn't specify (and may need formal
clarification, but that is up to Lisa), the usual criteria for
moving from Proposed-> Draft is that the documents be
sufficiently similar that an implementation of the first can be
considered an implementation of the new version so that
implementation reports are meaningful (it is stated quite
differently, but that is what it amounts to).  Due to changes
whose implications we have debated endlessly, that is definitely
not the case here -- a fully-conforming implementation of
IDNA2003 is not a fully-conforming implementation of IDNA2008.
So, as far as I know, Proposed is the only possibility here.

   john


--On Thursday, October 01, 2009 07:02 -0400 Vint Cerf
<vint at google.com> wrote:

> martin,
> 
> that's a good question.
> 
> Lisa,
> 
> while the natural assumption may have been that IDNA2008 was a
> direct   modification of IDNA2003, the basis for the design
> seems sufficiently   different that it might merit only
> proposed standard status. I didn't   catch this when the
> announcement was sent.
> 
> Does anyone object to asking for proposed rather than draft
> status?
> 
> vint
> 
> 
> On Oct 1, 2009, at 4:51 AM, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
> 
>> Isn't the Last Call for Draft Standard, and one important
>> criterion   for
>> Draft Standard is implementations, so the implementation
>> report is   relevant?
>> 
>> Regards,   Martin.
>> 
>> On 2009/10/01 5:11, Lisa Dusseault wrote:
>>> Sorry, that was part of the announcement boilerplate that's
>>> not relevant to this Last Call -- I didn't notice it to
>>> remove it.
>>> 
>>> Lisa
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:50 AM, SM<sm at resistor.net>  wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> At 07:12 29-09-2009, The IESG wrote:
>>>>> The IESG has received a request from the Internationalized
>>>>> Domain   Names
>>>>> in Applications, Revised WG (idnabis) to consider the
>>>>> following   document:
>>>>> 
>>>>> - 'Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA):  
>>>>> Protocol '
>>>>>    <draft-ietf-idnabis-protocol-16.txt>  as a Draft
>>>>>    Standard
>>>> [snip]
>>>> 
>>>>> Implementation Report can be accessed at
>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/iesg/implementation.html
>>>> That's a 404.  Where can I find the implementation report?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -sm
>>>> 
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