Apostrophe (was Re: Names)

Erik van der Poel erikv at google.com
Mon Mar 23 18:20:22 CET 2009


I'd be more concerned about the "side of the bus" issue. If there is
an ad for aujourd'hui.fr on the side of a bus, and a user tried to
type that on a French keyboard (or an American tourist's laptop),
would a typical app assume U+0027 or U+2019?

Erik

2009/3/23 Mark Davis <mark at macchiato.com>:
> Why would a script care about U+2019, any more than any other non-ASCII
> character?
>
> Mark
>
>
> 2009/3/23 Patrik Fältström <patrik at frobbit.se>
>>
>> I can think of many cases where the apostrophe and other characters are
>> part of domain names given back when looking up PTR records in DNS, the
>> hostname gets added to a logfile (as a U-label) and then later parsed by a
>> script.
>>
>>   Patrik
>>
>> On 20 mar 2009, at 09.44, Vint Cerf wrote:
>>
>>> I am not aware of any, Mark, but perhaps others are?
>>>
>>> Vint Cerf
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>>> On Mar 20, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
>>>
>>>> Have there been any problems with apostrophe (U+2019) since IDNA2003 was
>>>> deployed, or can you spell out a scenario where an apostrophe would cause a
>>>> problem?
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/3/20 Patrik Fältström <patrik at frobbit.se>
>>>> On 19 mar 2009, at 21.31, Mark Davis wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There has been no uproar about
>>>> the fact that IDNA2008 disables many, many names in English (especially
>>>> Irish), French, Italian, and others. For example, all of the following
>>>> are
>>>> currently allowed in IDNA, but would be disallowed under IDNA2008.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, allowing anything that looks like (yes, I use that non-specific
>>>> phrase very intentional) a character that is dangerous in scripting is and
>>>> was when IDNA2003 was created a very very very bad idea. I do not think many
>>>> people see the difference between ’ and ', and allowing such characters and
>>>> %, !, $, * etc is something I would say is a bad idea. Very bad idea. Not
>>>> everyone can have "their name" as a domain name. Because domain names are
>>>> domain names, and not words and names.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I see your point regarding already registered domain names.
>>>> Same thing for domain names that include arrows, snowman etc.
>>>>
>>>>  Patrik
>>>>
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