Stop me if I've misunderstood...

[Marie-France Berny]

2009/7/10 Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele at microsoft.com>

> > > Hmm ;-)  Let's see "microsoft.com", Microsoft.com, MICROSOFT.COM,
> MicroSoft.Com,
> > > MiCrOsOfT.CoM, I'm not gonna list 512 variations of "Microsoft" that
> don't compare equal
>
> > I am afraid this is an American Engineer idyosincrasy. The remark only
> > makes sense in a cultural/technical environment of which the
> > orthotyprography does not make any semantic difference between upper
> > and lower cases. Up to now users believed that this bugged conception
> > was an Internet feature and the whole thing survived.
>
> Hmm.  That's odd, I find tons of French (France) content online
> (newspapers, etc.) that are more than happy to use ALL CAPS to make their
> point.


Respectfully, capitals in French have nothing to do with majuscules (I
expected this was known to all now on this list?).

Also, French, Swiss, Canadian handling of capitals are diferent. You know,
French is a very odd thing as it is normalized (for 470 years 30 days from
today). It actually is in many ways managed as a technology. And the way
French speakers speak, write, joke, and think (eventhough French citizens
are far less good at their own language than Senegaleses,  Swiss, or
Canadians) is pretty influenced by a constant mix of language and
metalanguage.

This is why the planned linguistic/semantic French and African test projects
are of interest.And their position to include English interfacing as a
structural part of their project.

Pretty much everyone on this list seriously considering IDNAbis is ignoring
> your suggestions as they realize they are linguistically impossible in a
> globally diverse world where speakers of different languages change locales
> (there are numerous French speakers in the US, even in my hall.)


If you consider what you say, you will see that only our reading of the
existing Internet architecture (we propose nothing new, just to explore the
way the Internet is built) can address what you say. We do not say however
that this will not cause problems. But the consideration of these problems
has to be undertaken: they cannot be blocked.


> Your system would take them (or me) to unexpected places.  Even then it
> wouldn't work because "Joe's Plumbing" will only work for one Joe, so you've
> spent a ton of effort trying to solve an edge case where duplicates are
> forbidden when the much more common cases aren't addressed.
>
> I will try very hard not to reply on this subject again.


Your priviledge. You will note however that this may not help much in
addressing the subject !

Best

Marie France




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