mappings-01

Mark Davis ⌛ mark at macchiato.com
Sun Jul 5 17:13:37 CEST 2009


Although I've been arguing for a mapping phase, what I've been arguing for
is one that is part of the lookup protocol, and so common across all
implementations. An optional mapping -- one that is only a SHOULD -- and
only for UI, is as far as I'm concerned, far worse than John's earlier
version of protocol (
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idnabis-protocol-12).

I suggest strongly we just drop the mapping document entirely, and just
proceed with the previous basis:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idnabis-protocol-12.

Mark


On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 08:27, Vint Cerf <vint at google.com> wrote:

> Taking advantage of this exchange to underscore for the working group
> what I consider to be a remarkably perceptive observation:
>
> quoting from the authors:
>
> >> In the case of mapping user input, we could not give a good
> >> reason why this is needs to be required. It is clearly a good
> >> idea because it will prevent user surprise, and we say  so.
> >> However, mapping does not promote interoperability between DNS
> >> clients and servers, nor between applications. Things that are
> >> just good ideas where the exceptions cannot be well defined
> >> are not, in my opinion, applicable targets of RFC 2119
> >> "SHOULD".
>
> with the specificity of the new version of the mapping document
> and the rationale above as to its application, I urge the WG
> participants
> to raise any additional substantive issues promptly.
>
> We need to reach closure on all documents at the end of the first
> day of the meetings in Stockholm.
>
> I also suggest that the mappings document and the removal of
> RFC 2119 language eliminates the need for the "mapping forms"
> that Mark Davis suggested, since the mappings are suggested but
> not required. The IDNABIS framework establishes clear rules for
> defining what characters are allowed and what practices are
> recommended for registration and look up.
>
> I hope and believe that we are very close to consensus on the
> IDNABIS revisions.
>
> vint
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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