I-D Action:draft-ietf-idnabis-mappings-00.txt

[Elisabeth Blanconil]

I understand this. But I am refering to entropy as "a loss of information",
as per Shannon and John. Now, I am not a mathematician here: I am a
semantician. This because we precisely reach here (and this is the entire
problem) the limits of mathematics. If we could quantify the entropy we
could restore the initial information in restoring the corresponding
negentropy.

The problem we face is that mapping introduce a non quantifiable entropy. We
definitly enter mathematical chaos field through the entropic succession
which chains possible semantic misunderstandings.

Varela (knowledge), Thom (mathematics), Cullioli (linguistics), Morin
(complex thinking), Von Bertalanffy (systems) etc. identify linguistics,
semantics and pragmatics as the most complex knowlege field. Here we play
with hortotypography with an impact on semantic within different contexts.
For those not familiar with chaos and catastrophy theories or complex
thinking this is like the Lorentz's butterfly in Tokyo. You change a
majuscule into a minuscule (French orthotypography) or an upper case into a
lower case (English orthotypography) and you do not the global impact (it
can be nill, most probably it will change the world, cf. Chaitin and co.).
This is exactly the same as any other phishing: to make someone trust what
he should not.

Elisabeth Blanconil

2009/7/1 Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw at abenaki.wabanaki.net>

> Any phrasing is possible. Some mean less than others. One of my co-workers
> was tempted to use "entropy" in a policy document recently. I prefer not to
> use the word unless the "entropy" asserted to exist can be stated as a
> mathematical formula. If you could make that attempt, it would be helpful.
> Users deserve statements that purport to "explain" which are factually
> correct.
>
> Eric
>
> Elisabeth Blanconil wrote:
>
>> 2009/6/30 "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst at it.aoyama.ac.jp <mailto:
>> duerst at it.aoyama.ac.jp>>
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>>
>>    A case mapping is also a 'loss of information', but one that
>>    people clearly want.
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>>
>> Could we not phrase this differently ? Case mapping may be considered only
>> if it does not represent a loss of information. Otherwise should we not name
>> it "case and entropy mapping" to explain users where entropy occurs.
>>
>> Elisabeth Blanconil
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