Bundling vs Mapping

Erik van der Poel erikv at google.com
Wed Feb 25 23:32:13 CET 2009


I'd like to know what Eric meant when he talked about bugs and URIs.

Bidi is interesting, but even before you get into that, we have plain
old lower-casing. The question is whether browsers are going to
continue to lower-case as part of IDNA when they adopt IDNA20XX. The
next question is whether they are going to continue to perform NFKC as
part of IDNA. Then we have the question of Eszett. And at some point,
we have the question of bidi, but that is certainly not the first
question that comes to my mind.

Erik

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Patrik Fältström <patrik at frobbit.se> wrote:
> On 25 feb 2009, at 17.30, Erik van der Poel wrote:
>
>> The question here is what exactly you consider to be a "bug" in
>> current URI handling in the area of IDNA.
>
> The main reason why I really want to separate domain names from URIs is that
> specifically URIs using the HTTP scheme do have certain characters that
> start the URI ("http://") and some that end the domain name part ("/").
> These might, I claim by just having used some browsers, and without knowing
> any such script, create a specific context in which left to right scripts
> behave in a specific way.
>
> If you just look at the domain name by itself, it can exist in both a R2L
> and L2R context, and by doing that the result when rendering the domain name
> as a string is "interesting".
>
> So, the few tries I have done, once again -- without knowing arabic --, on
> my mac show that rendering domain names is hard. Knowing just a bit about
> context make a huge difference.
>
> You can see my tests in a simple text editor on the mac, where I swapped
> over all directionality of the strings on the following URIs, and you might
> understand why I am worried. Regardless of whether my examples makes sense
> or not. Once again, I do not know Arabic.
>
> http://stupid.domain.name/node/681
> http://stupid.domain.name/node/682
> http://stupid.domain.name/node/683
>
> The first one of these made me wake up.
>
> And, because of this, I think we have to keep apples separated from oranges,
> although we know we use both in a fruit salad.
>
>   Patrik
>
>


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