Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 20:24:13 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id D463061B05 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 20:24:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08751-09 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 20:24:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B0761B03 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 20:24:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DtrCa-0006K7-FS; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:15:52 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DtrCW-0006JD-GK for ietf@megatron.ietf.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:15:49 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA18842 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dtpz6-00059O-5O for ietf@ietf.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:57:52 -0400 Received: from ver78-2-82-241-91-24.fbx.proxad.net ([82.241.91.24] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DtpVt-0006nz-49 for ietf@ietf.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:27:41 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050716105714.03aaacb0@mail.jefsey.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:03:01 +0200 To: ietf@ietf.org From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" In-Reply-To: <20050716021645.E54333BFEFC@berkshire.machshav.com> References: <20050716021645.E54333BFEFC@berkshire.machshav.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab Subject: Re: Port numbers and IPv6 X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF-Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: ietf-bounces@ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no On 04:16 16/07/2005, Steven M. Bellovin said: >In message <42D84379.6050600@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>, Masataka Ohta >writes: > >Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > > > >> Circa 1974, in a computer architecture class, I heard Fred Brooks point > >> out that *every* successful computer design eventually ran out of address > >> space. The same applies to network protocols. > > > >An interesting theory. > > > >It explains why IPv6 can't be successful. > >Nice line. I don't agree with either your conclusion or your >sentiments, but it is definitely a nice line. Has work been carried on IPv6 Interface ID Grids to give a quasi illimited number of pre-defined/agreed connection points/ports? (my interest is more "plug and play" and access engine oriented than IPv6 behind NAT or ... IPv8). jfc _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf