Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:22:42 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013E761B05 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:22:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24093-01 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:22:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058E961B03 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:22:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DtbNN-0000GP-Jz; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:21:57 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DtbNL-0000GG-Q4 for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:21:55 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA11935 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DtbqH-0005jA-4Y for ltru@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:51:49 -0400 Received: from ver78-2-82-241-91-24.fbx.proxad.net ([82.241.91.24] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DtbNK-00013S-DJ for ltru@ietf.org; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:21:54 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050716024828.06097900@mail.afrac.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:21:42 +0200 To: "LTRU Working Group" From: r&d afrac In-Reply-To: <009c01c5899d$b4d73280$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0C20D827@irvmbxw01.quest.com> <009c01c5899d$b4d73280$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - afrac.org X-Scan-Signature: 8abaac9e10c826e8252866cbe6766464 Cc: Subject: [Ltru] Last call: clarification between language tags and locales X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 02:31 16/07/2005, Randy Presuhn wrote: >"Although a language tag constructed from a primary language subtag >followed by a region subtag bears a syntactic resemblance to a locale >identifier, the two are not to be confused. Locales typically provide >information well beyond the identification of the language in use, as >they are associated with modifying system and application behaviour." Proposed text - as insert for relation with IESG pending an IESG decision: "[Charter has explicitly said that langtags apply to HTML, XML, CLDR, etc. This WG has identified that this point of the Charter is to be requalified. In the case of CLDR, locales can certainly be described in using Langtags as many other language and country related objects and processes, such as publishing, reading, filtering, censoring, exchanging, communicating, classifying text, book, records, identifying expertise in a language, copyrights, etc. etc. However they also have the capacity to document non language related issues such as colors on a display, sound of a loudspeaker, process speed depending on a process pattern, default network addresses, etc.. They also can be partly patented to support patented processes. As such they may have to be identified in refering to patent references the "x-" escape sequence could support woud it not be limited to 8-alpha/num for retro-compatibility with the never used before patent referencing. The WG hesitates to documents langtags for the CLDR and wishes to exclude langtags considerations from its charter, reserving to locale compilers the decision to use langtags as a part of, or an equivalent to, localtag or not. Should localtags be confirmed as directly belonging the Charter, a locale oriented "l-" final extension will be used where all the subsequent dashes would not be part of the Draft ABNF, in order to accept sequences of the form "-c-" included in some of the references to include.]" jfc _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru