Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:26:16 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A0061B4D for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:26:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24990-01 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:26:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F6E61AF5 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:26:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DsYna-0001ih-8k; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:24:42 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DsYnY-0001ic-Pl for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:24:40 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA24835 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DsZFt-0004Ux-W1 for ltru@ietf.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:53:58 -0400 Received: from ver78-2-82-241-91-24.fbx.proxad.net ([82.241.91.24] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DsYnX-00011i-CW; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:24:39 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050713052111.048e2ac0@mail.afrac.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:24:30 +0200 To: Frank Ellermann From: r&d afrac Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: Adding more 2119 keywords In-Reply-To: <42D4806D.C44@xyzzy.claranet.de> References: <634978A7DF025A40BFEF33EB191E13BC0C1092A4@irvmbxw01.quest.com> <006c01c5871c$c00ae260$7f1afea9@oemcomputer> <42D444DE.64CC@xyzzy.claranet.de> <20050713021532.GA3180@NYCMJCOWA2> <42D4806D.C44@xyzzy.claranet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - afrac.org X-Scan-Signature: 538aad3a3c4f01d8b6a6477ca4248793 Cc: LTRU Working Group X-BeenThere: ltru@lists.ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@lists.ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at alvestrand.no On 04:46 13/07/2005, Frank Ellermann said: >John.Cowan wrote: > > when I posted that, I didn't yet know we were in last-call > > status. > >Randy posted it in > > >I just found the "secret script" for this part of the process: > >MUST and SHOULD: > >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-online-proceedings/05mar/proceedings/slides/wgchair-0/sld32.htm >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-online-proceedings/05mar/proceedings/slides/wgchair-0/sld33.htm > >WG Last Call > >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-online-proceedings/05mar/proceedings/slides/wgchair-0/sld35.htm >ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-online-proceedings/05mar/proceedings/slides/wgchair-0/sld36.htm > >So we are at step 35 of 50, that's only 70% ;-) Bye, Frank Frank, as you may note: "Document must be reviewed and actively supported by a significant number of people, including experts in all applicable areas ... or it should not be sent to the IESG. Silent does not mean consent during this phase". I do not think this is fully matched up to now. I accept there are experts in this WG on various applicable parts, and that I am one of them, focusing on OPES, DNS, IDN, ccTLDs, Common of Reference Centers, but there are certainly many other areas. A list would be useful. And I do not support the Document in its present form as a replacement of RFC 3066 but I accept it with comments as a complement of RFC 3066. Otherwise the we are to do is to review all the RFC quoting RFC 3066 and proactively making sure they are not adversely affected. Both is in theory and in the way they are used. "Document should be extensively reviewed both within the WG and across other areas". Due to the difference of point of view and the lack of common evaluation of the Charter, I consider myself as one of the "other areas". I will try as indicated before to provide a review before having to go on vacations. But I am certainly disappointed by the lack of Charter clean sheet study (cf. ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-online-proceedings/05mar/proceedings/slides/wgchair-0/sld24.htm ) I strongly recommand to consider this: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-online-proceedings/05mar/proceedings/slides/wgchair-0/sld23.htm jfc _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@lists.ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru