Return-Path: Received: from murder ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.2.8-Mandrake-RPM-2.2.8-4.2.101mdk) with LMTPA; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:50:43 +0200 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0D7320092 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:50:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10046-02 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:50:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.8 Received: from megatron.ietf.org (megatron.ietf.org [132.151.6.71]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AB4320091 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:50:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E9nkw-0002Ut-Us; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:49:14 -0400 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1E9nkv-0002Ug-Ad for ltru@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:49:13 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA23381 for ; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from montage.altserver.com ([63.247.74.122]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E9nmJ-0007Sp-A8 for ltru@ietf.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:50:39 -0400 Received: from ver78-2-82-241-91-24.fbx.proxad.net ([82.241.91.24] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1E9nks-0000qZ-Cn; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:49:11 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.2.20050829193905.04deabc0@mail.afrac.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.3.4 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:49:02 +0200 To: Frank Ellermann , ltru@ietf.org From: r&d afrac Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: Last Call: 'Tags for Identifying Languages' to BCP In-Reply-To: <4313448D.7B8F@xyzzy.claranet.de> References: <20050829051715.OFHU9276.mta6.adelphia.net@megatron.ietf.org> <01ca01c5ac5a$bfe335e0$030aa8c0@DEWELL> <4313448D.7B8F@xyzzy.claranet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - afrac.org X-Scan-Signature: 3e15cc4fdc61d7bce84032741d11c8e5 Cc: X-BeenThere: ltru@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ltru-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: ltru-bounces@ietf.org X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 19:23 29/08/2005, Frank Ellermann wrote: >Doug Ewell wrote: > > "For all I know, the sheer volume of... [blah blah blah] ... > > is absolutely typical of other IETF Working Groups." > >Oh, yes, that's possible. Apparently the LTRU list was >more on the busy side, other lists like SASL or NETWRK are >relatively quiet. But when I substract what I consider as >"Jefsey tries to collect points for his appeal" (and Randy >is forced to track this with the ticket system) it's not >too bad from my POV. Dear Frank, you should add the private mails I received which amount in my dedicated mailbox to nearly 500 (but there are duplicates, side aspects, etc. in more and in less). Some are from Members of this WG. >In another article: > >| It's hard to follow this line of argument that a registry >| with 7,600 languages would be too large, and simultaneously >| that it should instead support 20,000 languages, unles the >| object is to do away with the registry altogether Your comment is very interesting as it implies positions I have not, and is insultring, on the ground of an obvious typo I appologized for. Some could say that you could be biased :-) "Be happy when you are gratuitly insulted, either you are stupid or right". take care. jfc >It's exactly the same line of arguments where he attacks the >registry for its size, and simultaneously proposes to add >descriptions in - hard to tell - "more" languages. > >Some supported the latter, and they were not worried about >the size. A majority decided that French descriptions are >not really better than English names, and that we're not >creating a dictionary. Both are honest positions. > >But one participant wanted both, that was IMNSHO dishonest, >and just another attempt to collect points for his appeal. > > Bye, Frank > > > >_______________________________________________ >Ltru mailing list >Ltru@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru