Return-Path: Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([unix socket]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Cyrus v2.1.11-Mandrake-RPM-2.1.11-1mdk) with LMTP; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:19:04 +0100 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD61861C02; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:19:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08483-05; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:19:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A586861BDB; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:18:59 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: ietf-languages@alvestrand.no Delivered-To: ietf-languages@alvestrand.no Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7906861BAE for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:18:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08483-03 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:18:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.74.122]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771E161B96 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:18:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from lns-p19-8-idf-82-249-22-116.adsl.proxad.net ([82.249.22.116] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1CrbH3-00072H-U6; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:18:54 -0800 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050120122709.05b0d090@mail.jefsey.com> X-Sender: jefsey+jefsey.com@mail.jefsey.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:18:50 +0100 To: "Peter Constable" From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-6E224035 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - alvestrand.no X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jefsey.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at alvestrand.no Cc: ietf-languages@alvestrand.no Subject: RE: Language X within scope of language Y X-BeenThere: ietf-languages@alvestrand.no X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Language tag discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no Errors-To: ietf-languages-bounces@alvestrand.no X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at alvestrand.no At 06:48 20/01/2005, Peter Constable wrote: >Apologies for my very rusty French. No! My point is that you are totally entitled to it. The same as I should be entitled to my Frenglish in here myself. This is internationalization creep in multilingualism. > I will not be writing these expressions with any regularity, even if you curb yourself in not doing it (what is a very strange way for a standard to affect real life) millions of people will do it and maybe billions of parsers will get the problem you should solve for them.You only underline the problem: a standard MUST support every situation - with a special solution or by default. And even without any regularity, you will do it sometimes. We all learn from our mistakes :-) >so I don't think I need to learn any complex tagging scheme needed to >describe them. :-) Complex? To describe the real world. Two empty fields (in your usage)? Ouahou! Or removing "replace RFC 3066" in an ascii text? This reminds me the people who condemned Gallileo when he wanted a 3 fields tag to describe the globe and they wanted only 2 because they were the keepers of the roman mailing list registering the 2 fields tags on the Vatican site. After all, it might have been better ... CC (Christophoro Colombo) would have stayed home in Genoa? Take care. AH's Troll >Peter Constable > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JFC (Jefsey) Morfin [mailto:jefsey@jefsey.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:21 PM > > To: Peter Constable > > Cc: ietf-languages@alvestrand.no > > Subject: RE: Language X within scope of language Y > > > > On 02:26 20/01/005, Peter Constable said: > > >"bête noir" > > > > Good for me, but this is "fr-Latn-US-ietf_language_style-Peter_Constable". > > "fr" is "bête noire". > > I understand it, my parser would not. > > > > >"un bon idée" > > > > ditto. "fr" is "une bonne idée". > > > > IMHO this does not prevent Peter to use that spelling and wording outside > > of a linguistic laboratory. Actually he just did it. He will be understood > > by normal people. > > > > HA's Troll _______________________________________________ Ietf-languages mailing list Ietf-languages@alvestrand.no http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages